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[solitary_summer]

As of today I'm officially the complete loser sister of a Frau Doktor with boyfriend and daughter. Strangly enough though I'm not even particualrly bothered, and I haven't quite been able to decide whether that's a good thing or not...

And now without further ado, onto the Torchwood rewatchage. *g*

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[solitary_summer]

the show isn't afraid of juxtaposing extreme contrasts, which is appealing and persuasive since life doesn't tend to compartmentalise neatly either.

Exactly.

only to Retcon her and laugh at the fact that she's about to go right back to that state of ignorance and exclusion.

It's really only a step away from what Suzie does, retconning that support group. Cruel, but I think it comes from the same place of isolation and desperation.

without necessarily thinking through what that might mean when he was safely inside the Hub.

I'd be more inclined to believe that if had picked a different persona for the first meeting. He certainly wasn't planning on having a relationship, but sex, at least a couple of times until Jack lost interest, was something he was willing to do, I think, if that was what it took, because too much depended on it.

I'm not saying they had a relationship or anything, or even a very regular thing, because Ianto certainly couldn't allow it to become that; but attraction mixed with loneliness... I could see Ianto justifying sleeping with Jack by telling himself that he was doing this to protect Lisa, and justify betraying Jack (and I think he saw it less of a betrayal, because he was so absolutely convinced that he was doing the right thing) by believing, rightly or wrongly, that he didn't mean anything to Jack.

I also think it doesn't add up for me that Jack could have been shagging Ianto by night, working with him by day, but still essentially with so little interest in him as a person that Ianto's outburst in Cyberwoman about Jack's lack of interest in him would so clearly have hit a raw spot.

It did hit a raw spot, but I think for once that says more about Jack than about what actually happened. I think Ianto might have begun to want, mostly probably on a subconscious level, more from Jack than he was getting, but of course couldn't allow himself to ask for anything more (whether ot not Jack would have been willing to give that) or even admit to himself that - or how much - he wanted it, because that would mean betraying Lisa, and to keep that balance intact started to focus his anger on Jack, blaming him for not knowing, not asking, not helping him, more than the situation justified, because I think this is the first time Jack would have got an indication that Ianto might have wanted something more than absolutely casual.

I think both of them were so irate with each other that one or both of them would have brought it up during the general yelling and punching and gunpoint business.

I think I've might have said that before once, so please ignore me if I'm repeating myself, but what I find interesting is what's not being said, and how Jack, even when he's supremely pissed off on a personal level, because sex or no sex, it was he who'd been completely taken in by Ianto, sticks to 'us' and 'we' and 'the team'. But then again, maybe coincidence.