'Gwen, Gwen, Gwen' or 'I love you but not you'

Feb 03, 2009 16:37

Sorry for the long long answer. (It always turns out to be 2-4 times longer from what I’ve intended. ;_;) I’m taking from what mint_amaretto already said and adding a drop of Freudian mentality into it. I apologize in advance for any cheesiness.

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solanyxe February 3 2009, 23:58:35 UTC
Thank you for taking the time to read all that. Sorry gain. (Oh, I could picture you wriggle your lips while reading and thinking, "No, no, no, that's not it. Can't you see TEH SLASH SUBTEXT?"
And, oh, I do see it. ;)

I definitely read this scene as the show making an injoke about the slash factor

That's certainly the most pleasant way to look at it. (And my favorite too. I plan to to do a fanvid where Gwen and Morgana are fangirls, and this scene is one of those I intend to use.)

You're right that regardless of how much I sweat doing this mental aerobics in order to have Gwen as a coherent character, the fact stays that she's not. She is poorly written, as you say. (And as much as it pains me sometimes, yes, that goes for the entire show.) Instead of two-dimensional I said shallow, but it's basically the same thing.
And yep, the female characters never were the center of the show, not by intention and not by effect.
This show is about Merlin and Arthur.

I think this must be at least partially intended. The series allows practically every possible character pairing, but as Merlin and Arthur get more attention inside the show, it natural that they get at also outside the show.

I would be very surprised to hear that the authors didn't notice the attraction between the two when they were writing/filming. It's so obvious that if they're not aware of it, I think they would need to, khm, resolve some of their issues.

For now I think it's a:
"We know what we've made (it's not so important if they knew it from the beginning or if they realized it only after they saw the reactions of the fans), and you know what we've made, but we're not allowed to say it openly. We can, however, give you constant hints until the show is running."

If they'll ever stop giving those hints, they'll break the show IMO (and the hearts of Merlin/Arthur fangirls/fanboys).

by gay men, for gay men

Don't forget the gay men fangirls! (Funny how male homosexuality in the shows is linked also to the heterosexuality of the female fans, hihi).

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solanyxe February 4 2009, 13:07:40 UTC
I haven't watched those shows, so I'll take your word for it. :)

That's the problem with 'fan service' (At this I always think of various anime where the amount of panties and bras outshines the 'storyline'). Can't be helped, I guess, sex sells, deep stories not so much. I actually wouldn't mind all this allusions to sex and sexual transgression if it weren't so empty and...'omnipresent.'

"... not this one, see my recent journal posts! In fact I know quite a lot of fangirls who are the same."

Well, to be honest I doubt the majority of Merlin fans watches the show and writes fanfiction for the sole purpose of (sociological) exploring of the discrepancy between the physiological reality and self-image in relation to social norms. (sex, gender, and education)
But it's interesting to know that there are some.

I still think that's not the majority. Seen too many fans going wild about one actor or the other (or both) to disregard this aspect. (Same for this new reality composed partially of actors and partially of their fictional characters.)
So you'd have to work very had to convince me that for female fans the attractiveness of Colin and Bradley doesn't play an important role.

Of course, for a fan, the interest in the actors, unconventional fictional couples (and the dilemmas they are facing) might lead her/him to question the social norms/conventions and the logic behind them.

So it's possible to have both, I guess.

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