Thinky thoughts about The Reichenbach Fall

Feb 04, 2012 18:50

Okay, now that I've watched The Reichenbach Fall three or four times, I realize that there are some things that are bothering me...

cut for spoilers...REALLY BIG SPOILERS. Especially if you haven't seen the ep yet... )

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scherwood February 5 2012, 04:00:48 UTC
1. I think he's known from the pool scene that he was going to "die".. or that Moriarty is going to try and kill him in some way so.. *shrug*

2. I think it's too much too fast.. because he doesn't trust the press (for good reasons), and therefore he doesn't like the idea of Sherlock being too famous.. because yes, the press always turns in one way or another.. and he doesn't want Sherlock to get hurt, a normal friend reaction, even though Sherlock doesn't function like John does. :)

3. No, I don't think he thinks John is no longer on his side.. but he's stressed, worried and more about the situation so he takes out all his frustration and stuff on John.. and going by John's reaction I think John knows this too. *nods*

4. Could be a made up name just for the episode..??

5. Could be someone from his homeless network, or Molly, who made the call.. he didn't want John to be away for too long, because he wanted John to be there.. to give his death credibility.. if John believes it, then so will everyone else..

6. He knows about the killing, figured it out outside Kitty's place.. I don't think he knows about the key, or the hit men, not totally at least.. he may have had those thoughts in his head, but maybe he didn't know it know it until Moriarty said it.. and while he knew about M's insanity I don't think he was prepared for the "blow his own brain out" thing, because which bad guys doesn't want to live forever?

7. The only ones I can think of, who knows Sherlock visit Barts all the time are.. Mrs Hudson, John, Molly, Mike Stanford, Lestrade (and he's not talking, he's on Sherlock's side, that warning phone call, and Lestrade not hunting Sherlock when he took John as his hostage)..

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snycock February 5 2012, 04:30:42 UTC
1. But would Sherlock just accept that? Wouldn't he try and do something to get out of it or prevent it or outsmart Moriarty? What seems so strange to me is that Sherlock seems resigned to it at this point, like there's nothing he can do about it. That just doesn't seem like him.

2&3. I think you're probably right.

4. It must be a made-up name, but I can't help but think there's some significance. After all, it's a case where there's a death that looks like a suicide but it's not.

5. I guess that makes sense, but it seems really cruel. He has to "die" to save John, but John doesn't have to see it, only the "hit man" has to (and only one of them - the ones with Mrs. Hudson and Lestrade obviously don't see Sherlock jump). John would be just as convinced if Molly told him she did the autopsy, don't you think?

6. I tend to agree, I think Moriary's killing himself threw Sherlock for a loop. I don't think Sherlock expected that, even though he'd prepared to go through with his own "death".

7. Well, Donovan must know - in The Great Game Lestrade looks at her when Sherlock says to draw samples and send them to Bart's. Even if Lestrade was on Sherlock's side, Donovan would tell them about Bart's.

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scherwood February 5 2012, 11:47:04 UTC
1. He would accept that, yes, because it's not boring anymore.. but that doesn't say he's just going to die. He's far too fond of himself to just lie down and die. *g* And I don't see him as resigned at all, I see him with an idea to outsmart Moriarty, but he's going to hurt everyone he loves doing it. He might not have a big heart, but a small one at least. :)

2+3. :)

4. Yeah, I know.. I wanna know too.

5. He's not a kind man, Sherlock, as he's proven again and again.. and I think Sherlock would rather hurt John mentally than have him hurt physically in any way, because as long as he's alive Sherlock's happy. He didn't know about the hit men, and therefore I don't think he was prepared to die fully (because I still think he was counting on winning over Moriarty), and therefore he wanted John to be there no matter what. Who does want to die alone, and if he didn't die he would have John as backup. No, John would have to see with his own eyes that Sherlock died, he's that kind of a person, and Sherlock knows this.. that's why he had to die in front of John.

6. Yeah. *nods*

7. *nods* Yeah, sure, but what kind of Bart's.. there could be a lot of Bart's in London.. and first she has to remember they said that, and then they have to search for it, and then they have to mobilize their troops, and then they have to find Sherlock.. *shrugs* Could take time.. they might even need the approval of their superiors..

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scherwood February 5 2012, 11:56:38 UTC
3. I also think that Sherlock somehow wants John to understand what he's going to have to do.. he doesn't want to be alone with all the information he has.. he wants to share it with John.. but he can't because he has to protect John no matter what, that's Sherlock's gift to John, his friendship.. to protect John from what Sherlock thinks is his responsibility.

John: "No, I know you for real."
Sherlock knows this.. they know each other.. and how do you protect the only loyal friend (maybe more, because there's a lot of love between them in one way or another) from harm? How do you tell this person everything will be alright, but not saying it? *sniff*

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