Too many new K-pop idol groups debuting...my assessment.

[cronodroid]

Hey guys! I'm Crono. This is just a quickie regarding my favorite Meta topic: the K-pop industry. Mind dump warning…

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Is the ability to follow choreography blatant?
Two waves in the gif linked. The blog author prefers the girl on the right for its greater emphasis and power, but a lot of people(myself included) prefer the more sensual wave on the left. Yet the girl on the right learned to dance that way because when her mother went to see her at a concert she couldn't identify her daughter, so the girl now makes grander movements in order to stand out in a dancing crowd. Wouldn't that be frowned upon in Kpop, because it would break the sync of the group? Tommy Rall has better technique but Bob Fosse choreographed his own part, who's the better dancer? Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly?

And of course my own personal pet peeve, Hyuna winning that best dancer poll a while back with Hyo not even being one of the other choices. That's my beef with intersubjective.

But yet I still largely rely on reviews to pick films or restaurants I have no previous knowledge about. Obviously I do rely on intersubjective somewhat. Speaking of which just today after seeing several posts about Chi Chi on a forum I lurk on I watched the link. Shit, the whole package from the song to the dance to the fucking flouncy skirts is super catchy. XD I think I might follow the Krystal look-alikethem. Shame about the outfits and simple dance, but it's not that different from the likes of this, except Don't Play Around is even more ear-wormy, ugh. You know, I think it's this exactly same sequence of events(seeing several posts about its catchiness on that forum) that led me to watch the Gee MV for the first time way back when.

I think it's fine to critique new idols for creating music that the audience (whether Korean or foreign) don't enjoy listening to.
Yes, there is this very important distinction to make. A somewhat objective prediction of whether or not a song or group will sell well is quite a different thing from trying to assign some value of "quality" to it. Saying a) how I personally judge something vs. b) how I think X demographic will react to something vs. c) declaring the quality of something are very different cases. Take this thread for example. Your OP's main point seemed to be b) with predicting how the Korean music market would take the rapid debuting of new groups, and you and I have had a) in our comments with our personal preferences in idol looks, but the OP also put up some of c) with assuming musical freedom and the YG system to be beneficial and that these new groups are inferior. Those latter declarations are really what raised my hackles, although I can't speak for the others who have commented in here. Through your replies in the comments you've been able to flesh out these declarations into arguments with with what perspective you've based them on. But a lot of them still come off slightly like trying to label something good or bad with an universal standard("objective") rather than having a clear external standard such as the Korean aesthetic or international appeal(intersubjective) to contextualize with.