Concept Talk
Concepts I wanna see for SNSD
I've noticed that SNSD's songs tend to be more traditional pop than their fellow idols' dance track mania. SNSD's least melodic single was Oh!, whose dance track potential was firmly squashed by its bubblegum arrangement and thus also cast into the pop genre.
And this was one of my initial attractions to SM ( Read more... )
I've noticed that SNSD's songs tend to be more traditional pop than their fellow idols' dance track mania. SNSD's least melodic single was Oh!, whose dance track potential was firmly squashed by its bubblegum arrangement and thus also cast into the pop genre.
And this was one of my initial attractions to SM ( Read more... )
Rainbow's A and especially Infinite's Come Back Again feature guitar riffs, but both cases are more like a dance track sampling some guitar. Nothing wrong with that(Come Back Again's funk is sweeeeet) but sometimes I do wanna hear some real moshing potential.(Yes, that's CROWD SURFING in a fucking idol concert!)
I always just react to their newest surprise
Yeah, that's the nice thing about groups whose music style is that they can change drastically every time.(For their singles, anyways. Their album tracks are still largely in that Kenzie fresh song exemplified in Baby Baby.)
This is how I enjoyed my descent into idol groups the first time. It's probably because I saw how idol groups could pull off all of the concepts listed above that I wish SNSD could follow suit.
the crayon-colored mad scientist pop group
Oh, the Jpop I could pimp to you.
But E-Tribe have several times failed to recreate Gee/U-Go-Girl's catchiness.
Definitely. Not just E-tribe either. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was basically a fiercer reuse of UGoGirl's best parts and it still didn't have that spark.
Of course, taking "Chopped-up choruses; lyrics as sounds rather than storytelling; odd structures" to its extreme produces essentially electronic music, and in that sense SM has taken those standards to heart, with the epitome of course being again, Lucifer and Nu ABO.(I love this description of Nu ABO's crazy structure) And "lyrics as sounds rather than storytelling" is Yoo Young Jin's modus operandi, with the Sorryx2-RingDingDong-Bonanaphone-Lucifer train obviously following the "chopped up choruses" style.
SNSD have delivered their electro pop with a certain elevated coolness
Yes. One of the concepts I thought about wishing for was a REAL angry song, and oh did RDR tease us with that, but despite the not-sunshine-and-rainbows lyrical content of RDR and Hoot, their tone is dismissive, not angry. And it's been noted before that despite the "come hither" moves in TMYW and the inviting lyrics, TMYW actually comes off like SNSD is at a distance, an ethereal presence. Look but don't touch.
Both Hoot and Go Away have "breaking the hand-heart" as a dance move in the choreography, but 2ne1's songs definitely feel more angry, from their styling to MV content to general tone, and the tipping point is that 2ne1 is allowed to be FIERCE and SNSD isn't. That point is further hammered in by how 2ne1 beat out SNSD on the ranking of best showcases on Chocolate. Rewatching both, I felt that SNSD's dancing was more impressive, but 2ne1 won because they connected with the audience so much. Which was also the difference between GDTOP and Suju in the 2010 gayo daejuns. I spazzed so much about how GDTOP utterly owned the crowd, creating a feedback loop of energy with their audience, and not letting anything like adherence to a set choreography get in the way of that.
That's both the strength and the weakness of the group
Yes, definitely. But I tend to find that while I may enjoy the core-sound groups for a while, ultimately I'll turn to the all-sound groups because they can do the songs the core sound groups do, AND still do other things. My enjoyment of the core sound groups largely depends on if I feel like listening to their style of music, but an all-sound group has a higher chance of having -something- I'll feel like listening to at any given time.
What I don't want: For them do to 'cute'
I do too. But damn if sometimes the cutesy songs are the best-written.(I still need to do that Kissing You worship post) The styling and choreography suffering as a result of cutesy concepts though is inevitable. :( But then again, Kara's Honey shows us an alternative on the style front at least: elegance and beauty.
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Girls Aloud are so much better than Katy Perry tho :E They're not really alike in general, GA as a group and as songs coming off more ramshackle-- Noisy, chaotic hangover pop. They had 20 consecutive top 10 singles in the UK, but are on a hiatus now.
This was the lead single for their fourth album and comes closer to the tuneless craziness of Yoo Young-jin's recent work than any other western pop group.
Only used one production team their entire seven year career, but are an example of how that doesn't necessarily mean a stale sound. Any genre can be applied!
Sliding slightly off-topic here, but I'm sure you can sympathize with wanting to use non-Korean pop to illustrate :p
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Sexy No No No sounds real nice and catchy. I much more prefer Europe's pop to America's R&B/Hip hop mainstream, and thus it's no wonder that I don't mind Kpop as much with how many European dance tracks they buy.
One producer DEFINITELY doesn't mean one sound. Tsunku produces almost every H!P song that gets put out. And I am forever a fan of Bounceback.
By all means, pimp more! I love learning about and hearing new music.
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The current trend is to sample outright from the 80s and 90s. Oh, "The Time of My Life" (from Dirty Dancing) and "Who's That Girl?" (Madonna, bitches!), what have they done to you? ;_;
Anyway, I've stopped wanting X, Y, or Z from SM because those wishes rarely come true (it's so true that SNSD is about listening to wishes, not granting them!).
Takahashi graduating Fall 2011. Huh. She's been in MM for 10 years. Even more huh.
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Lol I guess I should make that "my fandom progression" post so we can all bitch about how cynical we are about SNSD now.
That and 9th gen are ALL 12-13 year olds. And Mitsui(8th gen) the current youngest just turn 18. Uh wut.
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I fear I am in the "losing interest very quickly" phase. Although I still enjoy whatever the heck comes out of Hyo's mouth.
That and 9th gen are ALL 12-13 year olds. And Mitsui(8th gen) the current youngest just turn 18. Uh wut.
This. I was like, when the heck did Mitsui turn legal? Why are they all so YOUNG?!
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^Junjun macking on the winner of the H!P Korea auditions. Talk about all asians NOT look same.
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Dude, I called them the pandas too. At least they didn't make their own little PandasMusume unlike Coconuts. XD
So should any future korean additions be called the plastics? :P
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So should any future korean additions be called the plastics? :P
AHAHAHA, so wrong, but not as wrong as me thinking, "No, Kimchi musume--no, wait, cabbage shortage."
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There's already a SushiMutenMusume "made to spread the sushi culture around the world and the promotion of a sushi chain in Kansai." KimchiMusume would be the perfect counterpart.
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Let's not forget Afternoon Musume. When are we going to get Night/Evening Musume? I mean, it would be an answer to AKB48 . . .
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Ah, you're right it is from H!P as well. I wonder if she'll still be under UFA, and if she'll participate in any future "Dream Morning Musume"(composed of the OGs, including Koharu!?) concert tours.
They don't need Evening Musume. No stupid midriff censors in Japan! :D
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Generally I vastly prefer american rnb and hip hop, although my favorite artists struggling to put out any albums these days because of the lack of popularity for female rnb makes it torture to even try and build up enthusiasm. I mean, Cassie is, despite her technical shortcomings, the greatest rnb vocalist since Aaliyah, and yet four and a half years after her debut she hasn't been able to put out another album because all single attempts have flopped. It's heartbreaking and probably pushed me towards foreign markets *kills self*
*Listens, revives*
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