Oakley and Anna, a la Tom in "Unrelated"
蝴蝶：你觉得要怎么形容Oakley？Would you say manipulative?
鸢尾：No. Why do you think he was manipulative?
Because of the tricks he played trying to get girls?
蝴蝶：He was flirting with Anna, but when she expressed interest openly, he rejected her
鸢尾：Because he liked her i guess? But not sexually attracted to her? Also, she's a family friend.
蝴蝶：I don't think that was it
鸢尾：Really?
蝴蝶：我觉得他就是无聊空虚呗
鸢尾：You think he played her?
蝴蝶：Well not as so cruelly...不过至少潜意识里，他是想勾引她来证明自己sexy, attractive
鸢尾：Really? Why did he need to prove he's attractive? To whom?
蝴蝶：嗯，我记得那个广场上，他们的谈话是比较…………超出朋友范畴的
鸢尾：Yes, but I mean there are people like that
who flirts without necessarily wanting to end up in the same bed.
蝴蝶：没错啊，所以Anna真要动作，Oakley就no了
鸢尾：poor Anna
鸢尾：I mean there are people who's like that, they have a lower bar…but it is not that they are trying to manipulate...I mean, he could be, but not necessarily.
蝴蝶：我觉得Oakley是那种，通过掌控别人而获得自我价值肯定的
鸢尾：Where do you see that? The beginning? When he said "Jack, Jack" to shut the other kid off.
蝴蝶：你看他在那群年轻人里面，也是头儿。但是他并不快乐，或者说他的内心有个洞（家庭缘故）
鸢尾：An angry person is usually charming. funny.
蝴蝶：没错，所以他就通过扮演这么一个角色，一个charming funny sexy的角色，来获得别人的肯定，乃至respect/attraction
鸢尾：yes, he's a kid
鸢尾：心情好沉重了
蝴蝶：他当然不讨厌Anna……但是他肯定知道，或者他应该知道，他虽然没有动心，他那么对Anna，对方却是会动心的
蝴蝶：你懂么？就像两个人对唱，一个人在那里倾情演出，一个人在那里假唱
鸢尾：so he "gains" someone to establish himself
鸢尾：I think he likes Anna too, probably not much. Sigh, poor Anna. If she didn't ask him to go in, they'd probably have a few more days
蝴蝶：对的
鸢尾：It's ok. It's not real love on either side...
蝴蝶：从一方面看，他至少没有真的让她陷得更深。不过从另一方面，也是因为他对她的兴趣不足以让他陪她演下去
鸢尾：See, I don't think he was thinking from her perspective AT ALL. He wouldn't even think what he put her in. He was a kid...full of anger and hormones...
蝴蝶：对，就是没心没肺少年郎
鸢尾：I like this movie. There are a lot of movies…..kind of have a reversed gender thing. Middles aged man. Has all. Gets bored.
鸢尾：But since here the main character is a woman, things are more subtle.
蝴蝶：而且还不是那种cougar形的
鸢尾：是的，我觉得她对Oakley的那一点心动也很正常。还有她自己说的，因为她的心结。
鸢尾：Because she didn't seize the chance when she could, she's probably regreting ,and thinking about being young and everything.
蝴蝶：是啊，女人也会中年危机啊
鸢尾：其实Anna还回去像朋友一样对待Oakley…… （当然除此以外她也不能怎样……）
鸢尾：No. Why do you think he was manipulative?
Because of the tricks he played trying to get girls?
蝴蝶：He was flirting with Anna, but when she expressed interest openly, he rejected her
鸢尾：Because he liked her i guess? But not sexually attracted to her? Also, she's a family friend.
蝴蝶：I don't think that was it
鸢尾：Really?
蝴蝶：我觉得他就是无聊空虚呗
鸢尾：You think he played her?
蝴蝶：Well not as so cruelly...不过至少潜意识里，他是想勾引她来证明自己sexy, attractive
鸢尾：Really? Why did he need to prove he's attractive? To whom?
蝴蝶：嗯，我记得那个广场上，他们的谈话是比较…………超出朋友范畴的
鸢尾：Yes, but I mean there are people like that
who flirts without necessarily wanting to end up in the same bed.
蝴蝶：没错啊，所以Anna真要动作，Oakley就no了
鸢尾：poor Anna
鸢尾：I mean there are people who's like that, they have a lower bar…but it is not that they are trying to manipulate...I mean, he could be, but not necessarily.
蝴蝶：我觉得Oakley是那种，通过掌控别人而获得自我价值肯定的
鸢尾：Where do you see that? The beginning? When he said "Jack, Jack" to shut the other kid off.
蝴蝶：你看他在那群年轻人里面，也是头儿。但是他并不快乐，或者说他的内心有个洞（家庭缘故）
鸢尾：An angry person is usually charming. funny.
蝴蝶：没错，所以他就通过扮演这么一个角色，一个charming funny sexy的角色，来获得别人的肯定，乃至respect/attraction
鸢尾：yes, he's a kid
鸢尾：心情好沉重了
蝴蝶：他当然不讨厌Anna……但是他肯定知道，或者他应该知道，他虽然没有动心，他那么对Anna，对方却是会动心的
蝴蝶：你懂么？就像两个人对唱，一个人在那里倾情演出，一个人在那里假唱
鸢尾：so he "gains" someone to establish himself
鸢尾：I think he likes Anna too, probably not much. Sigh, poor Anna. If she didn't ask him to go in, they'd probably have a few more days
蝴蝶：对的
鸢尾：It's ok. It's not real love on either side...
蝴蝶：从一方面看，他至少没有真的让她陷得更深。不过从另一方面，也是因为他对她的兴趣不足以让他陪她演下去
鸢尾：See, I don't think he was thinking from her perspective AT ALL. He wouldn't even think what he put her in. He was a kid...full of anger and hormones...
蝴蝶：对，就是没心没肺少年郎
鸢尾：I like this movie. There are a lot of movies…..kind of have a reversed gender thing. Middles aged man. Has all. Gets bored.
鸢尾：But since here the main character is a woman, things are more subtle.
蝴蝶：而且还不是那种cougar形的
鸢尾：是的，我觉得她对Oakley的那一点心动也很正常。还有她自己说的，因为她的心结。
鸢尾：Because she didn't seize the chance when she could, she's probably regreting ,and thinking about being young and everything.
蝴蝶：是啊，女人也会中年危机啊
鸢尾：其实Anna还回去像朋友一样对待Oakley…… （当然除此以外她也不能怎样……）