lol.

Sep 02, 2008 00:45

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7592636.stm

Seriously though, does anyone believe anything other than the clearly obvious fact that Palin was chosen only to woo the female vote and bring some youth to the McCain campaign?

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ironjester September 2 2008, 15:54:10 UTC
well yeah, but what other point is there in selecting a vice president other then to try to use them to collect more votes?

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thewrath September 2 2008, 17:19:30 UTC
those 3 alaskan electoral votes will be huge.

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jodilynne85 September 2 2008, 19:01:55 UTC
i totally agree.

and also, i miss you!

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ironjester September 2 2008, 23:57:51 UTC
i was thinking more along the lines of him enhancing his/the parties image with female voters, and possibly trying to sway the malcontents that supported Hillary.

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snowboarder911 September 3 2008, 00:07:09 UTC
Yeah, I was referring to the hard line jilted Hillary's.

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thewrath September 3 2008, 00:59:07 UTC
the electoral vote was obviously a joke. clearly the move was made to win over the religious conservative crowd who were unsure until this point, while sealing the deal for at least a good chunk of the 18 million hillary supporters who were completely shafted this year, and at the same time staying true to his maverick/independent image. if mccain was only looking for a woman as his vp then there are other choices he could have made who have a lot more experience than palin.

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snowboarder911 September 3 2008, 01:43:59 UTC
I completely agree with you Mark on the point that its a move to seal the deal with conservatives.

I'm genuinely curious though, how does this benefit his maverick/independent image?

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ironjester September 3 2008, 02:34:59 UTC
from the little that I've heard about her, she's been described as an "independent figure" who's not afraid to take on her own party when she thinks they're wrong. which kinda fits in to the whole maverick/independent image i guess.

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thewrath September 3 2008, 04:50:09 UTC
she ran against an incumbent republican for governor, and once she was in office she essentially told exxon/mobil to fuck off over some deal that would have screwed over her state. this was obviously a ballsy move considering alaska is totally dependent on energy revenue. she went around the oil companies and found an alternative way to fund a massive oil/gas pipeline to the lower 48 states.
there's a bunch of other stuff that she did that was sweet but i'll save that for later or your own discovery.

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ironjester September 3 2008, 02:30:48 UTC
well yeah, theres that too, i mean, I GUESS the religious right usually turns out to help republic candidates win.

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thewrath September 3 2008, 04:58:16 UTC
yeah but now they're coming out in massive waves to support and raise money for mccain, where as before most of those prominent religious and family values figures had commented they wouldn't even cast a vote for him.
of course that sort of started before the palin announcement, but only by a week or so. the saddle brook debate/thing and that fucked up abortion law obama voted for had already changed a lot of minds. sarah palin really just sealed the deal.

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drivesnorth September 3 2008, 13:06:34 UTC
NO ( ... )

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snowboarder911 September 3 2008, 14:37:15 UTC
Fair enough.

I guess a much better statement on my part would be that it's at least a ploy to go after the uninformed female electorate.

I think you're way oversimplifying the matter though when you state that "We want a candidate that will preserve the rights we are given by the Constitution and work toward a more egalitarian country for us." The fact of the matter is that there are a lot of really uninformed voters out there who make their decision on trivial issues, and I think that for some women in america just the fact that there's a woman on the ticket is going to be enough to sway them to the republicans. Just the same way that a lot of people won't vote Obama because they still believe all those ridiculous chain e-mails about how he's a muslim and won't swear into office on the bible if elected.

The truth isn't pretty, but the truth is that a lot of people in this country are not well educated enough to make a well-informed choice for president.

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snowboarder911 September 3 2008, 14:37:42 UTC
And that goes for men, just as equally as women.

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thewrath September 3 2008, 17:52:55 UTC
i would consider 1 or 2 million of the 18 a 'good chunk' and i apologize for using an ambiguous term to communicate my thought. however, my main point should not have been disturbed which was that his pick helped to attract three different populations of people.

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drivesnorth September 3 2008, 20:11:20 UTC
I don't think she did anything to attract women, independents, and moderate voters ( ... )

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