"Initiation"

Oct 13, 2008 01:23

Intriguing; however, completely illogical.

Formal introductions are in order. For now, refer to me as "Hakuteiken".

Apparent theft. Disorder. Chaos. However, I believe I am capable of assisting those targetted by criminal offenses.

[ooc: Hakuteiken = affected. Wardrobe = Batman. Going w/ DC Comics here.]

*sky/spike, s: not a happy camper, s: talk is cheap, *phoenix/truth, s: introduction, *ichigo/toushi, *rose/kitty, *rukia/kazahana, e: wardrobe malfunction, *yoruichi/bastet, s: unimpressed, *sasuke/drake, *miles/justice, *toki/kanin, *allen/cross, s: better than you, s: not nice to meet you, *novak/scales

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extantlaw October 13 2008, 12:16:30 UTC
"Refer" to you as "Hakuteiken"?

I take it then, that is not your name?

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snobbiest October 13 2008, 13:59:53 UTC
Regardless of how fitting, selecting names for oneself is unacceptable when one knows the superiority of his actual name.

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extantlaw October 13 2008, 14:52:38 UTC
Although if one does not know one's name, or even if one has one, the superiority or otherwise of it is merely useless speculation, is it not?

You may refer to me as Justice, by the way - for now.

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snobbiest October 13 2008, 19:35:38 UTC
Given this environment, is it also vain speculation that normalcy exists beyond this realm? Has anyone any means to prove otherwise? Residue of our 'former selves' exists as an undeniable evidence in our preferences, mannerisms, and logic. Therefore, this superiority that has carried over in my choice of a temporary name.

Undoubtedly an interesting name choice. A pleasure.

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extantlaw October 13 2008, 22:14:39 UTC
It is merely speculation, but I would hardly call it vain or useless. The existence of an outside world is of material interest to the population at large and to explaining our presence here. As you say, the remnants of our memories are an indicator that we existed somewhere, before here.

Qualitative assessments of the finer details however, are at this point frivolous.

...Interesting, possibly - but it seemed fitting, at the time.

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snobbiest October 14 2008, 00:31:16 UTC
Frivolous... perhaps. Consider it the result of self-evaluation, a small but meaningful part of what defines identity. This notion is also a remnant of prior existence, akin to the awareness that Edensphere is a place of abnormality.

To what end one follows or believes such intuition is quite subjective.

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extantlaw October 14 2008, 21:24:19 UTC
But identity exists separately of the name that we give it, after all. A teacup will remain a teacup, whatever language it is described in, and one name bears no more weight than another. Identifying it accurately according to its attributes is the key.

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snobbiest October 14 2008, 22:19:26 UTC
Similarly, after that teacup has been chipped or broken, it still retains the fundamental characteristics of a teacup. Do one's own logic, preferences, and beliefs not count as one's attributes, and do these become dismantled after one's memories are lost?

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extantlaw October 14 2008, 22:53:03 UTC
They do not. But I believe the question was about the relative weight of the name we apply to the teacup, not the existence of the teacup itself.

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snobbiest October 14 2008, 23:01:08 UTC
This emphasis on the name is part of one's attributes and thereby subjective--that one fundamentally believes it is a part of his place in his former life, for a reasons not yet given or explained.

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extantlaw October 16 2008, 10:37:36 UTC
A teacup does not name itself, although its name is of no less value.

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snobbiest October 16 2008, 18:54:32 UTC
A teacup is neither sentient nor experiences damage similar to our affected 'attributes'. Again, the weight of one's name is subjective to its owner and based on remnant beliefs unaffected by memory loss.

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extantlaw October 16 2008, 21:55:31 UTC
If you believe that is the case, then do you not also consider the name that you have given yourself here equally superior, especially given that it is your choice alone, and thus entirely subjective.

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