Your Take on God?

[z3s_keep_going]

I'm just wondering what your take on God in Supernatural is. Do you guys think Dean or Sam believes in God? I'm not religious, but I was just reading a fanfic following the episode "Faith" and it kind of brought this..

I really didn't think of Dean believing in God. It's probably just because I don't believe in God and this was the first episode

Comments

[slytherinblack]

The way I view it is simply a random series of events. It was neither right nor wrong for either Dean or Marshall to die, but rather it just happened.

Dean's response would probably be that it would be wrong for anyone to die. I think he'd also privately add that it was more wrong for Marshall to die than him. He seems to have a bit of a martyr complex

[z3s_keep_going]

You don't think it was either right or wrong for Dean to get hurt in the first place? That's an interesting way of looking at it

[z3s_keep_going]

I am not asking if you believe in God, and I can see how you could confuse that with what I'm actually asking. I'm asking for you for a second to ignore what you honestly believe, and what your reasons might be and whatever you have against the counter argument. It's just looking at someone else's opinoin and I'm asking you to input your opinion of God and religious belief as little as you can

[z3s_keep_going]

Great take on Dean!

[cocombat]

Uh, first, it depends on your cultural conceptions of God. This seems like the vaguely Christian one, both Creator, and simultaneously God of Good (vs the (God) Devil of Evil), which is a little tricky to comprehend simultaneously.

I'm inclined to take Dean at his word in 'Faith' when Sam asks him something like, "After everything you've seen, you don't believe in this?". He's a skeptic, he believes in Evil because he's seen it, that doesn't provide any reason to believe in a 'good' God.

In a more creator-ish sense, I have the random impression Dean might be say, a Deist. I.e. believes that God created the world, but has now left it, and man, to our own devices.
(I am not a Deist, it's just one of my impressions of Dean).

In reference to the above conversation about having to have faith to perform an exorcism, use a cross etc, I don't think that's necessarily how that universe works. I get the impression that if enough other people wield belief in an item, it will work for a hunter

[z3s_keep_going]

I think you're right- I did step out an look at a Christian conception of God, but I apologize for doing that. There are many different Gods- and you're right Dean might fall into a different belief of God. He may even have one of his own that doesn't neccessarily fit into just one religion- if you know what I mean

[krisomniac]

here from the newsletter.

Personally, I don't think either brother has a strong affinity to any organized religion. That said, they have very strong moral compasses, which is a major part of what religion brings to your life.

Dean, at least, is familiar with "people who do God's work" and makes that quip about "god saving us" from them. But I tend to think that's more a statement of the ironic than a statement of belief.

I think it's hard to question that they believe in right and wrong, if not in a higher power, and it's their moral grounding that guides their actions.

Gosh, I'm not explaining myself clearly this morning, but you know what I mean?

[z3s_keep_going]

I get what you're saying. What you say about moral compasses is interesting because I agree with that, in the greater gist that's what religion does for people. It creates something for them to believe in, something for them to follow, and a lot of the time it helps people to have good- which is a dangerous word to use here- values or morals.

Sometimes I feel like religion or God or whatever preception you can think of for that is created out a fear. It's scary not knowing, and sometimes creating something to explain for the things we don't know gives us comfort. I'm not saying this is true, because my take on religion is pretty messed up for the most part, but it's just an idea I get sometimes because I could see how it could happen.

[z3s_keep_going]

I don't think that Sam took Dean to a faith healer because he believed in God. Here's the way I see- most people think everything happens for a reason right? Let's take that point of view on for a second. If so, in the end you don't really Question why it is that so and so disappeared or something happened to whatever person. Sure they care, it's sad losing people that's obvious, but in the end it doesn't really matter what exactly happened. They know to accept that for what it is- this person died because now we can acknowledge them- that was a horrible reason but I think you get the gist of it. Anyways, for me, this supernatural stuff gave a reason for why this person died, or why this happened. Okay I've lost myself- sorry I totally forgot where I was going with this. But basically, what I do remember wanting to say is that I don't think that Sam thought the faith healer would work because he believed in a higher powerer. And I most certainly do not think that Roy picked Dean because a higher power was at work through Roy