Rewatch Discussion Post: Blink

Nov 15, 2008 20:56

Blink

All of time and space he promised me, and he's got me working in a shop!

Martha Jones

Okay, so they were hardly in this ep. But still, lots to talk about methinks!
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Don't know that this will make much sense fourzoas November 16 2008, 20:20:30 UTC
I'm watching the SciFi edited episode that I recorded when it first ran here. The station intro to the first commercial break says "Doctor Who is sponsored by the United Methodist Church." I laughed. Churches and all those statues...

This ep is great fun--love watching it--but my favorite business is thinking about it in the context of Moff's other eps and the constant charge that he deliberately un-ships the Doctor/companion. By most logic I see on teh internets, the scenario should separate the Doctor and Martha, and he (and she) should have a significant interaction with a different companion/potential "love" interest (Nancy/Jack [although I think the Nancy thing is more of a stretch than the "real" threat posed by Jack wrt Rose], Reinette/slightly Mickey, River/Lee).

I suppose we're meant to see Sally that way, but it's seems that the Doctor doesn't. If anything, it's Sally who sees him that way; her taking Larry's hand after she gives the Doctor the folder indicates she's ready to move on to the real love that's blooming in her life. She’s a companion in a very strange kind of sense, I guess.

And Moff doesn't separate Doctor/Companion; he traps them together and writes a scenario that very-slightly echoes HN/FoB. Perhaps that's his way of maintaining the unrequited love thru-line? The Doctor isn't pining for Rose, and Martha isn't pining for the Doctor (not that we see much of them at all to make those observations), but Sally is kind-of pining for the Doctor.

Anyway, that's what I'm chewing on. I want to know more about the 4 things. And the lizard. And where Martha got those awesome boots.

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Re: Don't know that this will make much sense persiflage_1 November 16 2008, 20:31:04 UTC
I'm watching the SciFi edited episode that I recorded when it first ran here. The station intro to the first commercial break says "Doctor Who is sponsored by the United Methodist Church." I laughed. Churches and all those statues...

LOL!! Oh most inapt sponsorship!!

This ep is great fun--love watching it--but my favorite business is thinking about it in the context of Moff's other eps and the constant charge that he deliberately un-ships the Doctor/companion. By most logic I see on teh internets, the scenario should separate the Doctor and Martha, and he (and she) should have a significant interaction with a different companion/potential "love" interest (Nancy/Jack [although I think the Nancy thing is more of a stretch than the "real" threat posed by Jack wrt Rose], Reinette/slightly Mickey, River/Lee).

I suppose we're meant to see Sally that way, but it's seems that the Doctor doesn't. If anything, it's Sally who sees him that way; her taking Larry's hand after she gives the Doctor the folder indicates she's ready to move on to the real love that's blooming in her life. She’s a companion in a very strange kind of sense, I guess.

I thought that Sally seemed to be pining after the Doctor until the moment when she took Larry's hand...

And Moff doesn't separate Doctor/Companion; he traps them together and writes a scenario that very-slightly echoes HN/FoB. Perhaps that's his way of maintaining the unrequited love thru-line? The Doctor isn't pining for Rose, and Martha isn't pining for the Doctor (not that we see much of them at all to make those observations), but Sally is kind-of pining for the Doctor.

I don't think it does maintain the unrequited love though (although maybe that's just because I've written so many shippy 1969 fics!) - I think the pair of them live quite happily together for those few weeks - neither one of them seems ill at ease with the situation - and in the bit where they're both talking to Billy after he first arrives in 1969, they're standing very close - right in each other's personal space... In my fanon, the Doctor enjoys their time together in 1969 as a direct result of both his guilt over what Martha went through in 1913, and his memories of the life John Smith could have had with Joan, as shown to them both by the fob watch. I also think he feels he owes Martha for 1913 - don't forget that he knows from Sally's folder what's going to happen before they go to Wester Drumlins since it hadn't happened for him and Martha yet when Sally gives him the folder - and so he deliberately goes to the house and allows them to be sent back to 1969, in part to ensure there's no paradox, but also to allow Martha to spend that time with him as himself, not as the unknowing John Smith of Farringham School.

Anyway, that's what I'm chewing on. I want to know more about the 4 things. And the lizard. And where Martha got those awesome boots.

They are kick arse awesome boots, aren't they? :D

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Re: Don't know that this will make much sense fourzoas November 16 2008, 21:14:03 UTC
I don't think it does maintain the unrequited love though

I entirely agree with you about Doctor/Martha in that Moff's story doesn't maintain THAT unrequited love scenario. I wasn't clear in my original post. What I meant was that it continues the developing theme of unrequited or thwarted love that mildly plays through the series (Shakespeare/Martha, Tallulah/Lazlo, Riley/Martha and that married couple in 42, John/Joan, and then the big one that's to come...), without making it either an overwhelming bit of the plot or tacking it on to Doctor/Martha.

So thanks, Moff, for making them hang together without the magic box to whisk them away from their issues.

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Re: Don't know that this will make much sense persiflage_1 November 16 2008, 21:17:17 UTC
I wasn't clear in my original post.

Ah, no, you weren't clear...

So thanks, Moff, for making them hang together without the magic box to whisk them away from their issues.

It's interesting that in The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit, the Doctor's appalled at the idea of living in a proper house, and yet by the time of Blink he's apparently quite cheerful about it - which is why I think my fanon's not wholly impossible...

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