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Apr 12, 2011 00:14

Who: Cyrus and whoever bothers to show up for class this time
What: Ethics class!
Where: Normal classroom
When: Monday, 1 pm
Warnings: Probably some yelling. You know how his students get. Also, probably BJ reminding people to crossthread and interject ( Read more... )

n (pokemon), r.o.b. (gyromite), anshu/solrock (pokemon), knuckles (sonic the hedgehog), # ethics, goombella (mario), spinny/spinarak (pokemon), pit (kid icarus), cyrus (pokemon), matthew (fir eemblem)

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Re: Those replies! monotreme_101 April 13 2011, 00:40:44 UTC
It was a subject that Knuckles had now had more personal experience with.

"I actually had some similar ideas to what N already said." he spoke, looking at his paper. "Power and the ability to use it, without any real kind of conscience.... Tyrants are people who oppress others, usually a lot of them. So, for them to have that ability, there has to be some kind of power at work. Money or political influence.... even just really powerful friends or allies that could be brought in to stop any kind of uprising. I guess, magical power or really advanced science would count too... but you have to have the will to use that power to oppress. The power itself isn't always BAD but the way in which it's used is what counts.

As for altering it.... well. The power needs to be in the hands of someone who wants the best for everyone and works towards that. Even if the power isn't USED by that person, just kept safe and hidden. The challenge would be finding someone with that kind of mindset and keeping them on that path because power can corrupt people too. Even... even good people. Or people who think they are good."

He looked the slightest bit uncomfortable, but continued.

"The person would also have to be strong enough not only to resist the temptation that that kind of power has, but be strong enough to protect it from those who might take it. Because I think that there's quite a few people who have the will to become tyrants, but maybe not the ability or power to take it to the next level."

He tapped his chin with his pen, looking at his notes intently. "So, in short... the will to become a tyrant, the ability to do so granted by some kind of power, and the lack of someone to take that power and use it wisely or not at all."

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Re: Those replies! will_be_god April 13 2011, 07:53:50 UTC
Cyrus waited, listening to what Knuckles had to say, and considering the points between him and N.

"You both bring to mind only what fuels the tyrants themselves, without considering the situations that bring them to power. A lust for power is meaningless without the citizenry to support it, be it through an election, a coup, or likewise. Otherwise they are only babbling to themselves."

After a pause to clear his throat, which came out in almost a dusty cough, he continued. "Although the both of you also bring up a hero, an overthrower, one who casts down the tyrants from the heavens themselves if need be. What qualifies someone as a true hero?"

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Re: Those replies! monotreme_101 April 13 2011, 14:13:22 UTC
"Well, first, there's a lot of reasons the citizenry might sort of allow a Tyrant to come about or rule. Fear, mostly I guess. Which is the first thing a Hero can't have... fear. A hero can't succumb to threats or shows of power because they're afraid. So, a hero needs a good, strong character as well as a strong enough body to face physical challenges. The most important thing though is to know what's right and to do it. If a hero sees injustice then they should be one hundred percent willing to step in and stop it, no question."

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Re: Those replies! surpass April 13 2011, 15:03:40 UTC
"Lies," N began, "may also be a factor of bringing a tyrant into power. Manipulation and toying with the minds of the citizenry could also bring a sense of solace to the populace. They may think he is a fine ruler, and yet, in truth..."

He trailed off, eyes downcast. He really was just babbling from personal experience, wasn't he? All that needed to be changed was that the citizenry was the population of Unova... and he himself.

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Re: Those replies! pitticus April 13 2011, 15:33:49 UTC
"A true hero will die for the ones he saves!" piped Pit, adding his two cents to the discussion. "The one thing on his mind is freeing them, so he fears nothing! Not even tyrant gods!"

You expected more? No, Pit's thoughts were pretty simplistic and straightforward at this point. Plus, he never organized notes, so... he was just talking off the tip of his tongue.

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Re: Those replies! tattlemethis April 13 2011, 19:39:56 UTC
"Everyone has fears," Goombella chimed in to Pit's comments. "But to be a hero you have to be able to act in spite of them."

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Re: Those replies! will_be_god April 14 2011, 01:08:31 UTC
"We, as imperfect beings, possess emotions such as fear," Cyrus admitted. Not that it would be the case for long, but he couldn't confuse them. "And to triumph over those things that threaten us, we must set aside that fear and work as if it does not exist."

Certainly he had felt fear when he had summoned the gods and ordered them to erase that rotten world. But it was what had to be done and so he did so without hesitation. "Personal attachments must be set aside for that greater good. We are only human." For now. A moment later he added "Or the equivalent thereof."

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