What is it that they say about curiousity?

Jun 27, 2007 10:57

There is an interesting article on CNN.com today about homosexual orientation. Apparently the majority of Americans now believe that sexual orientation cannot be changed. At the same time, however, only 39 percent believe that people are born gay, while 42 percent believe that homosexuality results from upbringing/environment ( Read more... )

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cynmoon June 27 2007, 17:51:19 UTC
I'm going to be the odd person out on marriage, but hear me out. It's not that I'm against gay marriage, or any marriage. I'm against the fact that all couples, who want to show their commitment to each other before their family, friends and their government are forced to go through what it an almost entirely religious practice.

If you believe that God/Goddess/TPTB will bless your union, and you want to do that in your church/temple/backyard wedding with a licensed officiator, whatever, be my guest whether you're gay/lesbian/straight/bi/somewhere in between I don't really care. But I think that should be between you and your religion, not you and the law.

As far as the law goes, I think ANYBODY of any sexual preference should have the right to choose who they want to consensually spend the rest of their lives with, and it should be recognized by the law.

I think the way to eliminate the problem is to no longer legally recognize "marriage." Recognize all unions legally made as "registered partnerships" and if you choose to hold a marriage ceremony, and refer to yourself and married and assume the title as a husband or a wife, so be it.

Really, I think the only thing preventing legally recognized same-sex partnerships is the church. They're worried that if it's recognized, they can be sued if they deny a couple the right to marry. Take the legality out of marriage, but respect the churches decision on whether or not to recognize it. That's a religious decision, let them battle it out.

But at the same time, you're not taking marriage away from all people (because people are WAY too scared of change). All you're doing is changing the legal paperwork. Keep doing whatever crazy backwards commitment ceremonies you want. If you want to march down an isle while a harp is playing in a giant white wedding dress, or if you want to ritualistically sacrifice a goat as an offering for Mr. Bub, it should make no difference, to me, my neighbors, or the country (well, except for the goat thing).

I babble too much. I think I made a point somewhere in there.

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sleepysaj June 28 2007, 18:09:16 UTC
I agree with you in principle. But, at the same time that very sane idea isn't gonna happen anytime soon. And, while the churches are certainly to blame for a lot of the lobbying against gay marriage, for the most part they understand that they aren't ever going to be forced to perform these marriages just as they are not forced to marry those who don't meet the tenets of their particular religion now.

The problem is the people. It's the "idea" that marriage is a God given thing. For some reason, they seem to believe that even courthouse weddings performed by a justice of the peace are somehow blessed by God.

Rather than change the entire legal system, and come up with an entirely new set of definitions, it's just simpler to keep calling married people "married" and hammer home the reality that not all marriages take place in a church.

But, if I ever get elected king of the universe, your idea will be one of the first I implement. That, and a separate island for people who leave their left turn signal on. :)

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cynmoon June 28 2007, 20:43:27 UTC
I just think it's crazy that it's okay for me to get married when I deny the fact that there could even possibly be a god (or gods), but someday I'll have to get married if I'm going to want all the legal rights it affords me.

However it's not okay from somebody who believes the whole "God loves them and made them in His image" thing to be married simply because they love someone of the same sex.

It boggles the mind.

But, if I ever get elected king of the universe, your idea will be one of the first I implement. That, and a separate island for people who leave their left turn signal on. :)

When is that election coming up, anyway? I hear it's a close race between you and Oprah. :-P

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