...and Garth Brooks IS better than the Beatles!
anonymous
December 10 2004, 10:41:30 UTC
Well, dear friends, it's sad to hear you've all completely passed over my Garth. Only the greatest entertainer of all time?! Oh, how I do love him.
In reading this compilation of discouragement above, I am discouraged.
First of all, can we for once and all get past this concept of music elitism? Let us not forget that our diverse tastes season our friendships to tantalizing deliciousness! If you don't want opinions, don't read live journal entries - read a mathematics book. Why is it that these entries are taken so seriously and offense is taken, then defense given. How can something meant to further connect people be turned so quickly into something so divisive, except by The One Who Comes to Steal, Kill, and Destroy? Let us use this media to encourage one another and lift each other's spirits. I've seen you all take these comments lightheartedly and joke about it. No matter how ridiculous an opinion seems to be, if that is how Blair feels, then let us be sensitive to that. Are you justified in dishing back to him the same thing it was that offended you?
Secondly, it appears as though there is a certain opinion going around about Brittany having a life lacking in substance or some sort of inability to think for herself. Is that not what everyone was concurring with? Is that what you all believe? I may be wrong, but if that is the case, live journal is the wrong place to go dropping hints at it. She is a person and a friend to you all and I know she would appreciate the matter being brought up to her by those she loves and respects. What pains me is that in the many short responses chiming in subscription to what Nathan said, I have inferred that this has been discussed before outside of her presence and agreed to by those involved. Is the same happening about me? I've not spent much time with many of you for a while, so who would be able to defend me? In the same way, which of you has spent any time with her to know her personal opinions on issues? Who in your conversations is there to defend her in any way? I don't think it would hurt for us all to talk. Brittany and I will be at Bible study this Wednesday night, so a pow-wow can be had thereafter.
Yes, I believe "Blair IS pretty cute and mostly crushable." (Are those of our friends who disagree going to take offense and attack me now?) He is a good friend of mine and I spend time getting to know him and what is more, I respect him. I respect him enough to talk to him about issues I may disagree with in person (and I'm now referring to much more substantial issues than bands). I respect the fact that he may have differing musical tastes than me. You all do. I listen to some (or tons of) "crap" music and I'm not going to not like it because others think it's crap or tell me I'm wrong. And you can believe I will be talking to Nathan about this in person and to the rest of you as well, as time allows. Please let us strive to build each other up and not alienate those whom we love. I know you all love each other and me; let us act on that love, as would Christ.
And remember, "Everyones gotta grow up, mom, everyones gotta grow up. hah, yes mom, I know I do too, we all do afterall!"
Your sister and friend in the Love of our Lord Jesus Christ, Brynne
let's be reasonable...
anonymous
December 10 2004, 11:38:52 UTC
What I was referring to is mostly Nathan's comment that so many so swifty consented to.
The "holding no water" stuff was fine, Blair's reply was fine, Adam's brown-eyed girl make out rant was somewhat inappropriate - though he was correct about musical taste being subjective, and Nick throwing out his opinion without being offensive was fine as well, but this is mostly what got out of hand:
"Can you believe that Brittany and Blair think that Van Morrison is better than the Beatles? Well, yeah, I know Brittany just thinks that because Blair does...well yeah, I know mom, but, I mean you can't really blame her, he IS afterall, pretty cute, and mostly crushable. It's really not her fault... 'Hah, no mom, I don't think that Blair and Brittany will love to shock and start controversy their whole lives."
And how so many people jumped on the bandwagon and went right along with it. If everyone agrees to what he said, this is a matter to be discussed with those being talked about, not nonchalantly tossed about online.
When it got to the point of personal attacks it got serious. And let's not pretend that live journal has never been a cess pool for personal attacks on one another before. This is not the first time something like this has come up. I rarely read it, but the times I do, I often see people being rude to one another - in jest or not, whether "they can take a joke" or not, that is not how we need to be to one another. Have I been guilty of going about this stuff inappropriately myself? Yes.
I am not angry about this, just rather disappointed. I would like to see everyone in person rather than electronically.
Re: let's be reasonable...ruokDecember 10 2004, 12:53:18 UTC
i cant remember what color brit's eyes are (blue right?) but if you thought my "making out with a brown eyed girl" rant was inferring brittany, i apologize to you and her. it was only a cynical view of people who God did not bless with the more attractive, blue eyes. secondly, i don't think anyone was concuring with nathans idea of brittany, but in fact they were simply cheering on his jovial nature. hoorah, you see. i do though agree that some of his tone was unfair, but on the whole his comment was merely an attempt at being funny. and no matter what is thought about my meaningless rant doesnt really matter as long as the ol' codger, blair, got a kick out of it. you see blair and i like to give each other hell and stuff sometimes. but it looks as though now its time for some heaven. lets pray.
also, i love the shit out of brittany. everybody does. in fact when jonathan told me that she liked him, i said "well great, brittany's awesome." i love you to brynne. more than words. more than laughter. more than raindrops on a cold summer, day. all my niceties are rot.
much appreesh
anonymous
December 10 2004, 14:03:35 UTC
Your response was appreciated and neither Brittany nor I assumed brown-eyed girl was a reference to her, and it was noticed that you were not being serious. We also had noted that your response to Nathan's quote was random and seemingly unrelated.
The one thing I will say is that I do not condone condescention as a viable source of comedy. If a friend is degraded or their feelings are hurt, there is nothing funny about it.
Thank you for responding; we both want you to know we love you as well. "Tell him I said thanks for the kind words." -Brittany
In reading this compilation of discouragement above, I am discouraged.
First of all, can we for once and all get past this concept of music elitism? Let us not forget that our diverse tastes season our friendships to tantalizing deliciousness! If you don't want opinions, don't read live journal entries - read a mathematics book. Why is it that these entries are taken so seriously and offense is taken, then defense given. How can something meant to further connect people be turned so quickly into something so divisive, except by The One Who Comes to Steal, Kill, and Destroy? Let us use this media to encourage one another and lift each other's spirits. I've seen you all take these comments lightheartedly and joke about it. No matter how ridiculous an opinion seems to be, if that is how Blair feels, then let us be sensitive to that. Are you justified in dishing back to him the same thing it was that offended you?
Secondly, it appears as though there is a certain opinion going around about Brittany having a life lacking in substance or some sort of inability to think for herself. Is that not what everyone was concurring with? Is that what you all believe? I may be wrong, but if that is the case, live journal is the wrong place to go dropping hints at it. She is a person and a friend to you all and I know she would appreciate the matter being brought up to her by those she loves and respects. What pains me is that in the many short responses chiming in subscription to what Nathan said, I have inferred that this has been discussed before outside of her presence and agreed to by those involved. Is the same happening about me? I've not spent much time with many of you for a while, so who would be able to defend me? In the same way, which of you has spent any time with her to know her personal opinions on issues? Who in your conversations is there to defend her in any way? I don't think it would hurt for us all to talk. Brittany and I will be at Bible study this Wednesday night, so a pow-wow can be had thereafter.
Yes, I believe "Blair IS pretty cute and mostly crushable." (Are those of our friends who disagree going to take offense and attack me now?) He is a good friend of mine and I spend time getting to know him and what is more, I respect him. I respect him enough to talk to him about issues I may disagree with in person (and I'm now referring to much more substantial issues than bands). I respect the fact that he may have differing musical tastes than me. You all do. I listen to some (or tons of) "crap" music and I'm not going to not like it because others think it's crap or tell me I'm wrong. And you can believe I will be talking to Nathan about this in person and to the rest of you as well, as time allows. Please let us strive to build each other up and not alienate those whom we love. I know you all love each other and me; let us act on that love, as would Christ.
And remember, "Everyones gotta grow up, mom, everyones gotta grow up.
hah, yes mom, I know I do too, we all do afterall!"
Your sister and friend in the Love of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Brynne
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The "holding no water" stuff was fine, Blair's reply was fine, Adam's brown-eyed girl make out rant was somewhat inappropriate - though he was correct about musical taste being subjective, and Nick throwing out his opinion without being offensive was fine as well, but this is mostly what got out of hand:
"Can you believe that Brittany and Blair think that Van Morrison is better than the Beatles?
Well, yeah, I know Brittany just thinks that because Blair does...well yeah, I know mom, but, I mean you can't really blame her, he IS afterall, pretty cute, and mostly crushable. It's really not her fault...
'Hah, no mom, I don't think that Blair and Brittany will love to shock and start controversy their whole lives."
And how so many people jumped on the bandwagon and went right along with it. If everyone agrees to what he said, this is a matter to be discussed with those being talked about, not nonchalantly tossed about online.
When it got to the point of personal attacks it got serious. And let's not pretend that live journal has never been a cess pool for personal attacks on one another before. This is not the first time something like this has come up. I rarely read it, but the times I do, I often see people being rude to one another - in jest or not, whether "they can take a joke" or not, that is not how we need to be to one another. Have I been guilty of going about this stuff inappropriately myself? Yes.
I am not angry about this, just rather disappointed. I would like to see everyone in person rather than electronically.
Yours forever,
Brynne
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secondly, i don't think anyone was concuring with nathans idea of brittany, but in fact they were simply cheering on his jovial nature. hoorah, you see.
i do though agree that some of his tone was unfair, but on the whole his comment was merely an attempt at being funny.
and no matter what is thought about my meaningless rant doesnt really matter as long as the ol' codger, blair, got a kick out of it. you see blair and i like to give each other hell and stuff sometimes. but it looks as though now its time for some heaven. lets pray.
also, i love the shit out of brittany. everybody does. in fact when jonathan told me that she liked him, i said "well great, brittany's awesome."
i love you to brynne. more than words. more than laughter. more than raindrops on a cold summer, day.
all my niceties are rot.
also in Jesus, and forever,
Adam.
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Your response was appreciated and neither Brittany nor I assumed brown-eyed girl was a reference to her, and it was noticed that you were not being serious. We also had noted that your response to Nathan's quote was random and seemingly unrelated.
The one thing I will say is that I do not condone condescention as a viable source of comedy. If a friend is degraded or their feelings are hurt, there is nothing funny about it.
Thank you for responding; we both want you to know we love you as well. "Tell him I said thanks for the kind words." -Brittany
Miles apart but always together,
Brynne
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