Religious Musings

Jul 07, 2009 01:43

God is not naughty. God is not mischievous. God is not precocious or coy. Your God is not my god ( Read more... )

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icecreamemperor July 8 2009, 03:47:47 UTC

Religion is totally fascinating, but God seems really boring to me. Like, the idea just doesn't have any traction in my imagination, the way it seems to for others -- but even there I kind of suspect that it's the religion, not the God, that got to them first. And I suppose that is part of the success of Christ as a figure; that he is not quite so God-y as all that.

The whole atheism/agnosticism/gnosticism/theism thing, I dunno, it brings out a sort of callous dismissal in me -- like 'why would that even be an interesting thing to care about?' -- but probably just because it seems to have become so prominent in pop culture lately. Whereas the concept of Grace or the writings of St. Teresa or all of the things people have made religion into -- very interesting, and no feelings of dismissal at all. It's like everyone made this big mistake at some point, and got 'God' mixed up in something else that is actually relevant to the human condition.

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skonen_blades July 8 2009, 07:14:29 UTC
Yeah for sure, with the whole Dawkins thing and Religulous and whatever else. It came up at the office today and I thought to myself that rational attacks on religion is sort of like beating up a five-year-old in the way that their belief isn't really up for rational dissection and debate. It's a feeling deep in the heart, not a provable fact.

But I also believe that art, science, and religion are all reaching for the same goal of understanding just what the heck is happening here.

I totally agree with your last sentence.

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icecreamemperor July 8 2009, 07:41:04 UTC
But I also believe that art, science, and religion are all reaching for the same goal of understanding just what the heck is happening here.

Meh, I tend to find science fairly separable from the other two. Science makes predictions about what happens next, but it doesn't care what any of it means. Art and religion are fairly caught up in the question of it means, and what we should do about it. Science helps us understand what the consequences of 'what we should do' might be, it opens up new avenues of action for consideration, and it helps us do things of greater consequence. But it doesn't care to what end human beings apply themselves, and it offers no help whatsoever towards answering that question.

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icecreamemperor July 8 2009, 07:41:38 UTC
"the question of it means" --> "the question of what it means"

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icecreamemperor July 8 2009, 07:50:07 UTC
Well, maybe I am being too dismissive again. Better to say, perhaps, that I myself do not see in the results of science any sort of guidance as to what I should or should not do with my life.

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skonen_blades July 8 2009, 08:06:33 UTC
I see what you mean when you put it like but I guess what I'm saying is that the very root of science is curiousity about how this universe works, from the smallest to the biggest, from the beginning to the end. I think it's the same for the other two.

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icecreamemperor July 8 2009, 10:07:19 UTC
Well, to each their own opinion of science. :) I feel like the very root of science is wanting not to die when winter comes.

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skonen_blades July 9 2009, 16:07:23 UTC
Absolutely. You're probably right.

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