Private liquor, public whine

Jun 06, 2012 21:12

[Note: I wrote this last weekend, and LJ ate it. I didn't want to waste more time being frustrated, so I let it go... and then LJ spat it back out again, so hey! Have a political rant post you might have otherwise been spared, and blame LJ. Twice ( Read more... )

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sinvraal June 7 2012, 17:24:42 UTC
Stuff like this makes me want to invite them up north for a year to see what it's like when you have to pay 15% sales tax (which is never part of the sticker price- you get good at calculating it in your head instinctually) on everything, and your income tax is 30-50%. And then if you own property you have city taxes too.

And then our students are out whining and moaning and disrupting the economy because they want their already staggeringly cheap education to be free. As if free is a thing that exists. Which actually means, naturally, paid for in full by the already radically overtaxed population.

In short, people are asshats and no one is ever happy with what they have.

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skellington1 June 7 2012, 17:33:08 UTC
In the US in particular, people are stupendously bad at looking outside of their own area for models of how things work differently (or the same) and how we can be informed by them. Or they'll pick an example like yours and refuse to see that maybe, just maybe, there's a middle ground between 30-50% taxation and no income tax at all.

Our state has no income tax -- everything is down to the ~8% sales tax (it's actually lower, but you add on city fees and such), as well as a few even less reliable sources like timber industry money, sell-off of state timber lands, etc. It's a startlingly bad way to run a state, because consumer spending fluctuates more than income, and is much, much harder to project for. The result is that basic services have been cut right and left, tuition (which was already steadily climbing -- my university cost $3500/year when I started $4500/year when I finished) has sky-rocketed, the already piss-poor underfunded state healthcare has been slashed ( ... )

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elialshadowpine June 8 2012, 03:33:30 UTC
The disturbing thing is that the state health care here has been far far far better than pretty much any other state I have lived in. I've honestly been amazed at how much they've covered for my disabled housemate, and I know they have cut stuff in the last couple years.

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skellington1 June 8 2012, 04:04:18 UTC
That speaks poorly for the other states. :( Of course, Washington's a better state to be near/below the poverty line in than a lot of others; I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise. It's great that they've come through for your housemate, at least as much as they have!

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elialshadowpine June 8 2012, 05:23:51 UTC
Yeah, I lived in Texas which was AWFUL... basically if you weren't pregnant, you were screwed. And then in MA, which is a little better but still... nowhere near as good.

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