While reading my psychology book...

[sith_empress]

I came across this statement.

"...juries [who] must assume innocence unless guilt is proven, because they would rather risk setting free a guilty person than convicting an innocent person."

Now call me an asshole/d-bag/bitch/heartless blob, but I don't agree. At all.

Comments

[simply_amelie]

i won't call you any of those things, but i will tell you to read the constitution. maybe focusing on the bill of rights part.

and, no, i will call you a heartless blob. if i'm ever on the jury for your conviction i'll make sure to have a prejudiced mind towards your conviction. i know that's what you want.

[sith_empress]

good thing i don't plan on being convicted of anything.

[simply_amelie]

oh, so most likely to be convicted thespian jokes nonwithstanding, you don't plan to be while you idolize a sustem that creates the need for actualization.

i'm just gonna stop now. you'll never understand this principle and will probably never understand the bill of rights. so listen to the second amendment, ignore everything else, do whatever the hell you want, and don't bring this up again unless you want mattie and i to intellectually bitch slap again.

sorry for any offense, and i hope the feeling is mutual.

[sith_empress]

I like it how you claim to be educated but you automatically assume that because I voice my opinion, which happens to be one of my First Ammendment Rights (freedom of speech), I'm unable to grasp the principle of innocent until proven guilty. Educated people don't jump to conclusions and make assumptions because as we all know, when you assume you make an ass out of you and me.

Anyways, seeing as how this is MY livejournal, I'll say whatever I please and if you don't like it don't read it. No one is forcing you to.

Also, I wasn't attacking/bashing the court system entirely, it's just flawed and I was pointing that out in a rather roundabout assanine way. And of course I realize that no system is completely flawless. I just wish it was. But o well I suppose.

Anyways, in the future, please take the stick out of your ass before you comment on my livejournal.

[heart_of_texas]

would you rather have people roaming the street that have commited murder or would you rahter have someone locked up that is innoent, yet stands the chance of getting out shortly b/c of parole? Its the duty of the government to protect the majority. And if it means putting an innocent person behind bars for the sake of everyones safety, its something I'm not going to lose sleep over.

[robot_vs_ninja]

Wait until that innocent person is someone close, and let's see how you feel then.

That's the problem with all these ridiculous hypothetical situations. Do you think that court's let guilty free often? No, not really. Do you think innocent people are convicted? No, not really.

Our court is flawed, but it works to the best of its ability and I think it works damn well. The courts are at least somewhat fairly balanced in this country.

Oh, and see my reply to your comment below for a response to the whole "duty of government" thing.

[heart_of_texas]

Okay, yes courts are flawed, I totally agree.

Yes, I think the courts are working to the best of the ablity and I think they are doing a swell job. But what is the problem with trying to improve something! Hello, reinvention is not a crime, its an asset.

[robot_vs_ninja]

Well, if anyone is going to improve upon, it's not you, nor is it Eedee

[heart_of_texas]

just because you don't agree with our ideas doesn't mean other don't. It also doesn't mean that you are correct and we are wrong. Nor does it mean the opposite. You are such a wanker.

[robot_vs_ninja]

Hahaha, oh no!

My e-feelings are hurt!

Yeah, I mean, arguing on the internet is totally going to bring about change.....yeah....

[heart_of_texas]

haha, I doubt it would bring change too

just saying, its nice to get things percilating (sp) now and hearing other opinions, so when we are in a position we can do something benificial (and not just to our own views)

I am sorry your e-feelings are hurt! *kisses*

[robot_vs_ninja]

percolate*

Are you kissing me or my feelings?

[heart_of_texas]

feelings, but which would you prefer?

[robot_vs_ninja]

depends.

are you hott?

[heart_of_texas]

lol, ask eedee, I hate answering questions like that, I don't want to sound... cocky :P

[emo_kidlet]

That's my innocent best friend Kristin who told you you could 'die in a toilet.'

Wanker...