Incest is something that has fasinated me in a way ever since I read an article about people who were adopted meeting their biological relatives in adulthood and being sexually attracted to them or even having sexual relationships. I find this incredibly interesting, and I think it's a terrible shame that so many people can't have a sensible, non-sensational discussion about aspects of this.
I don't personally do HP incest, but that's generally only because I'm a Snape-shipper, and we don't really have a family for him. Of course, he might have a sekrit half-sibling floating about somewhere, and if that half-sibling showed up in the books, I'd be a lot more likely to consider an incest fic, for the issues and surrounding emotions. One thing I really don't get, though, is the Weasley twincest. Apparently, people find this sexy, but how can it be? They look exactly the same. I'm not sure I can articulate it, except to say that it'd surely be more like maturbation in front of a mirror than anything else.
Heh--that's what I said about twincest. I guess that can be used as part of the squick in itself, that it pretty much is like looking into a mirror, which is something in itself
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Lol see, that for me is why incest fics are so squicky. As an identical twin (the type that Fred and George are, we can assume), twincest seems like the absolute negation of a twin's identity. "They're practically the same person anyway, why wouldn't they have sex?" But damn, we're not the same person lol. People find it appealing possibly because 1) they could imagine having sex with themselves (masturbation, only not!) and they think that's cool, or 2) What's better than one girl/boy? TWO girls/boys
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Oh, I think twin stuff is fascinating! And I have heard of mirror twins...does that mean that everything is reversed? Like you're mirror images of each other rather than identical if standing side by side? That always seemed sort of "cooler" to me. Yes, I am a dorky non twin fantasizing about magical wonder twin powers
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Lol yep! My sister and I have identical, reversed thumbprints. I'm lefthanded, she's righthanded. The sworls of our hair go in opposite directions. We actually used to loose teeth in a mirror fashion - I'd lose one on the top left hand side, she'd lose one on the right. We don't finish each other's sentances, but we talk very very fast when we're with one another, because when you've known someone for that long, you know what they're going to say and what story they're going to tell lol. We're not psychic, but we're both very empathetic people ... we tend to make very close connections with other people, and we both work better in a pair then in a team or by ourselves. Oooo, magic powers!
That book you described sounds exactly like my adolescence. I was the twin that was being pursued ... did the whole hair dye/crazy clothes/crazy behavior thing so that I wouldn't be like anybody, most of all my sister. It wasn't until years later that I realized that she took it personally, that it hurt her very badly that I wanted to get
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I can see how that would really be horrible, to have this person who was so like you and be distant from them. I remember seeing a site once for people who had lost a twin (to death, in this case) and you could see how it was just a unique experience. Talk about knowing somebody for a long time
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Unfortunately, I do know how that is. I've lost my twin - not to death, but to REALLY bad life choices and complete indifference to our family (and some pretty cruel and bizzare pranks **eyeroll**). And most likely, it's because of the exact same thing that I did to her when we were in high school; ignoring everything in order to forge an identity unique to the other, not even realizing how much you're hurting the other person. And yeah ... there's nobody else that you've known that long! I'm a single minute older than her. There was only one minute in my life where I didn't know her. Pretty crazy, huh?
Yeah, twins like that are grade-A creepy. I'm at the other end of the identity spectrum, obviously, but I don't understand how anyone would want to completely submerge their identity into anothers. As I understand, they live together, they're always dressed exactly alike, and nearly everytime I see them, they're doing the same loops around Union Square, ending up in the same resturant, the Cheesecake Factory in Macy's, every
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That is really sad about your twin. Although hopefully you could still reconnect in the future.
Although that does raise the interesting (uncomfortable?) question of how much of "the same person" twins really are, if when allowed to grow up without making the point of being different from one another.
It really does make you wonder. It brings up all those questions--what is a person at all, really? How much of it is DNA? And how about two twins raised apart but in very different circumstances? Could they just assume that, had they been reversed, the would have had each other's lives instead of their own, whereas regular siblings might have wound up very different?
Thanks :). If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, ah well.
Yeah, I find all of those Nature vs. Nurture questions very interesting. I've always wanted to try one of those Boardwalk type picture booths, you know, where it blends two peoples' faces together to see what their kids would look like, and see what I'dve looked like if I was just one person. I'm more on the side of Nurture because I've turned out so differently from my sister, but thinking about how much of the how I am is because I didn't want to be like her is sort of chilling. It really makes me wonder, though, about the dynamics of twins that don't seem to struggle against each other, like Fred and George or the San Francisco twins. Is it unhealthy not to struggle for your identity, or more healthy because you're not battling who you'd really like to be
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I wonder if being the twins just gave them a united front against the rest of the family, being in the middle, so they played it up because it made them unique while privately battling for independence. So the twin thing is almost like an act.
I wrote something about two brothers who have an older brother and younger sister and always feel kicked around in their family because of it. They're not twins, but a year apart (sharing a birthday, another thing that sucks about being them, they think-if they were twins at least they feel it would be cooler). They fought all the time, but also were naturally closer, like twins would be. So they do fight for their own identity, particularly the older one always wanting to make a big deal out of being older because they're quite close in age, while the younger one is always fighting against that. But they also wind up battling against all outside forces together.
Erm, I just read this post and thought Id comment on it. My appeal for twincest (outside of HP too) was always that I imagined twins would have a deeper connection to each other then most people would. Being together in the womb, and then being born together, I always imagined there would be a special connection that most people would never experience, and that was why the idea of twins being together always appealed to me. Im an only child so Im in no way experienced about it, and I really wouldnt know, but...thats what I always thought about it.
Oh that makes perfect sense to me--being a non-twin (I have an older brother and sister but there's a pretty big gap between me and them, making me sort of only child) I've always had that view of it too. I'm not interested in twincest between Fred and George, though, I think because they seem too much alike, it's a different dynamic. So in HP if I was going to read twincest I'd probably prefer the Patil twins because they are alike and have that bond, but are also very distinctly different people.
I don't personally do HP incest, but that's generally only because I'm a Snape-shipper, and we don't really have a family for him. Of course, he might have a sekrit half-sibling floating about somewhere, and if that half-sibling showed up in the books, I'd be a lot more likely to consider an incest fic, for the issues and surrounding emotions. One thing I really don't get, though, is the Weasley twincest. Apparently, people find this sexy, but how can it be? They look exactly the same. I'm not sure I can articulate it, except to say that it'd surely be more like maturbation in front of a mirror than anything else.
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That book you described sounds exactly like my adolescence. I was the twin that was being pursued ... did the whole hair dye/crazy clothes/crazy behavior thing so that I wouldn't be like anybody, most of all my sister. It wasn't until years later that I realized that she took it personally, that it hurt her very badly that I wanted to get ( ... )
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Yeah, twins like that are grade-A creepy. I'm at the other end of the identity spectrum, obviously, but I don't understand how anyone would want to completely submerge their identity into anothers. As I understand, they live together, they're always dressed exactly alike, and nearly everytime I see them, they're doing the same loops around Union Square, ending up in the same resturant, the Cheesecake Factory in Macy's, every ( ... )
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Although that does raise the interesting (uncomfortable?) question of how much of "the same person" twins really are, if when allowed to grow up without making the point of being different from one another.
It really does make you wonder. It brings up all those questions--what is a person at all, really? How much of it is DNA? And how about two twins raised apart but in very different circumstances? Could they just assume that, had they been reversed, the would have had each other's lives instead of their own, whereas regular siblings might have wound up very different?
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Yeah, I find all of those Nature vs. Nurture questions very interesting. I've always wanted to try one of those Boardwalk type picture booths, you know, where it blends two peoples' faces together to see what their kids would look like, and see what I'dve looked like if I was just one person. I'm more on the side of Nurture because I've turned out so differently from my sister, but thinking about how much of the how I am is because I didn't want to be like her is sort of chilling. It really makes me wonder, though, about the dynamics of twins that don't seem to struggle against each other, like Fred and George or the San Francisco twins. Is it unhealthy not to struggle for your identity, or more healthy because you're not battling who you'd really like to be ( ... )
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I wrote something about two brothers who have an older brother and younger sister and always feel kicked around in their family because of it. They're not twins, but a year apart (sharing a birthday, another thing that sucks about being them, they think-if they were twins at least they feel it would be cooler). They fought all the time, but also were naturally closer, like twins would be. So they do fight for their own identity, particularly the older one always wanting to make a big deal out of being older because they're quite close in age, while the younger one is always fighting against that. But they also wind up battling against all outside forces together.
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