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Nov 13, 2011 12:06

A moment of your time is all I ask, and in it, the answer to a question that has busied the minds of some of the world's greatest and consequently most idle thinkers. Your philosophical standing is not crucial here, merely answer by instinct.

Is it permissable to deliberately cause unhappiness, destitution or even death to the few, if the resulting ( Read more... )

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anonymous text st_murphy November 13 2011, 15:00:02 UTC
That would depend on the few.

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anonymous text dragonvariation November 13 2011, 15:02:24 UTC
Propose the circumstances. I would be most interested to hear them.

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Re: anonymous text st_murphy November 13 2011, 15:07:19 UTC
Should deliberately cause unhappiness, destitution or even death to evil men? Fuck yes.

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 15:12:36 UTC
Very well. Now I must ask you to define evil.

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st_murphy November 13 2011, 15:21:29 UTC
You honestly telling me you have no clue? Or is this meant to be one of those mind exercises where everything is fucking hypothetical?

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 15:26:11 UTC
Everyone's definition is different, no matter how obvious it may seem.

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st_murphy November 13 2011, 15:35:45 UTC
People who cause suffering. People who take advantage of the innocent. Those who murder, steal and rape.

I don't believe we should sacrifice a few good men for the greater good but as far the assholes who make life hell for others? Those mother fuckers should be taken out.

I'm a true believer in selective extermination.

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 15:41:08 UTC
I imagined you would be. You strike me as the type.

If exterminating all of the evil men in the world, and destroying the nests in which they breed their evil, meant the loss of as many innocent lives, what then?

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st_murphy November 13 2011, 15:49:33 UTC
Then you're just as bad as them.

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 19:21:23 UTC
If it stops evil once and for all; if mankind can thrive and flourish as a result, perhaps being 'as bad' is a risk that must be taken.

Better one bad man than sixty million.

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st_murphy November 13 2011, 19:44:20 UTC
You don't stop evil by becoming evil.

Get rid of the bad men. Don't become one.

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 20:17:43 UTC
And you can avoid becoming one simply by killing those you deem to be evil? A foolish notion.

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st_murphy November 13 2011, 20:36:34 UTC
You can avoid becoming one by not killing off innocent people.

If you can't tell the difference between an evil man and a good person you shouldn't be involved in this at all. The whole point of taking out those mother fuckers is that you make a place where good people can flourish. If you kill off the good people, what was the point of any of it?

You don't nuke an entire city because one murderous psychopath lives there. You find the son of a bitch and put a bullet in his brain.

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 21:28:11 UTC
I am asking if you nuke an entire city because half of its population are psychopaths, and the other half have no value at all in their lives.

But you speak as though there is a definitive good and bad in the world, and that is the mistake that all arrogant men make. The first mistake that precludes all others.

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st_murphy November 13 2011, 21:32:11 UTC
What do you mean when you say the other half has 'no value'? What kind of person has 'no value' to you?

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dragonvariation November 13 2011, 21:36:52 UTC
Answer my question first. A city that has fallen so far. Tell me, do you allow that worthlessness to spread like a plague, or do you exterminate it at the source?

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