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Jul 23, 2011 23:46

[Chuck opens his video with a little awkwardchans wave.] Hey, everybody.

So. [The most displeased face] I kind of have to wonder how the Mothers Against Newcomers actually even sleep at night. Do they really think they're doing something good by keeping innocent kids out of school? [He looks even more disgusted here, like he's resisting the urge ( Read more... )

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1/2; voice; meaculpable July 24 2011, 16:45:08 UTC
Spare the rod, spoil the child.

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voice; meaculpable July 24 2011, 16:46:53 UTC
Or whatever other contrite euphemism suits the occasion, I suppose.

[ He's going to be nice, okay. NICE. ]

Enjoying the sights? As dilapidated as they are.

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voice; paterelohim July 24 2011, 23:13:35 UTC
Um. [Is he still talking to him? Hnngh.] Well- honestly, I don't know what that has to do with M.A.N. I'm not talking about discipline, just giving them purpose. I mean, isn't it better than manufacturing juvenile criminals?

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voice; meaculpable July 24 2011, 23:17:24 UTC
You're mistaking a child's ability to choose with intent. Not every mortal is as hellbent on becoming a megalomaniac as the media would have you believe.

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voice; paterelohim July 24 2011, 23:48:11 UTC
...I know? I am one?

But. You have all these kids- kids who were snatched from their homes and spat into this horrible place without families, or role models, or discipline or anything resembling a home life. You give them all these things they can't control- the darkness, the Core - make them deal with stuff they didn't ask for, then repeatedly mistreat and persecute them for happening to be victim of those same impossible circumstances. Then, on top of that, have the government tell them they're not good enough to go to school? School could be their one shot at feeling and acting normal. Oh, and the kids have superpowers.

It's like writing a how-to to turn decent kids into dangerous people. Letting them go to school is good for the city, not just them.

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voice; meaculpable July 25 2011, 00:13:09 UTC
Perhaps that is what it will finally take to make those involved finally realize the harm they do. The beauty of free will -- if you'll allow me the oxymoron -- is that, no matter the social structure or civility offered, a human still retails their right to choose.

A boy predisposed to violence will no more change his course than one coddled and crusaded for; either the root of the issue must be addressed to keep public safety in check, or these children be left well enough alone to develop on their own to prove either side's point.

Either way, you end up treating them as statistics in the end, not individuals.

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voice; paterelohim July 25 2011, 00:26:23 UTC
I'm not saying there's no free will here- but kids can't raise themselves and vulnerable, victimized kids are really impressionable. It's just natural that keeping them out of schools will raise crime rates.

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voice; meaculpable July 25 2011, 00:28:15 UTC
Then what do you suggest should be done? Pointless moralizing is needless.

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voice; paterelohim July 25 2011, 00:30:21 UTC
Uh, the same thing I suggested every single time I opened my mouth? Letting newcomer kids in schools. This isn't even moralizing! It's just pointing out a really terrible consequence of trying to segregate them.

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voice; meaculpable July 25 2011, 00:32:19 UTC
You can repeat your point as often as you want, but speech without action is useless.

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voice; paterelohim July 25 2011, 00:39:22 UTC
Ooookay. So... you know that most of politics is speech without action, right? This is my post. I get to talk if I want even if it's just.. babble.

Do you have a point? I mean. Spare the rod spoil the child, the kids can choose their own actions, don't treat them like statistics, shut up unless you can do something...

Do you have a stake in this?

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voice; meaculpable July 25 2011, 01:04:34 UTC
I enjoy the relative peace we have.

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