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Apr 01, 2009 15:35

The thing is, I just posted this as a comment --

See, I've tried and tried and I so cannot do that (the whole writing about your own sexuality thing). It's rare that I write and read femslash, because it's just... it's obviously great fun when you DO IT but somehow the written word cannot really capture it right. It's all off, and makes me self- ( Read more... )

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desdema April 1 2009, 23:23:48 UTC
I don't have any recs for you, but I want to throw in a "me too." Femslash almost always feels like I'm reading about myself and my past relationships. I can't help but very explicitly self-insert with femslash in a way that I don't with m/m. I certainly project my own issues onto the m/m characters as well but it's so much less personal when I'm reading about men. And the problem with personalizing femslash for me is twofold. On one hand, as you mention, when femslash doesn't reflect my own experiences I tend to dismiss it. On the other hand, when it does fit with my experiences it just feels too personal and brings up too much of my own baggage to be entertaining.

That said, I've found a handful of Guiding Light fics that I've enjoyed over the last few weeks since I discovered the fandom, and I think part of the reason those are working for me is because the canon is constantly updating and the fic writers tend to riff on active storylines. It may also be because there is actual canon support for the love between the characters, and I've never before gotten into a canonical femslash fandom. I think I may judge a lot of femslash more harshly because the fic writers are extrapolating a relationship from limited contact and that makes the situation more open to my judgements of what I believe from my own experience would or would not happen.

I look forward to seeing what others have to say on the subject and if you get any recs I'll definitely be checking them out.

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silviakundera April 2 2009, 00:01:04 UTC
I think I may judge a lot of femslash more harshly because the fic writers are extrapolating a relationship from limited contact and that makes the situation more open to my judgements of what I believe from my own experience would or would not happen.

I think you're right, about how it makes it easier to personalize it, open it to my judgements, when the relationship isn't really there on the show. Maybe canon pairings would be easier. Canonical femslash I've most enjoyed was Sugar Rush Season 1. If anyone could ever point me to well written Kim/Sugar 'happily ever after' fic then I'd totally read it. If it was well done with good characterization, I think I'd probably like it.

I've enjoyed the canon femslash romance in Skins Season 3, but I actually don't know if I want fic there because they kind of wrapped that up pretty well for me.

I know there's kind of a tiny fandom for Ivy/Rachel from The Hollows book series (a fantastic series with femslash UST-- canon lesbian vampire in love with straight(?) witch best friend, who's all torn about it) but I've never really looked for fic, since I usually dislike femslash. Maybe I'll go hunting.

but yes, absolutely, with the over-identification and baggage. Fanfic is about fantasies, and my baggage is not fun.

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silviakundera April 2 2009, 01:02:24 UTC
The only pieces of femslash I can think of to rec are these ones -- Fell In Love With A Girl (22,000 words, Teyla/Kate, Stargate Atlantis)
The writing is so good, and Teyla comes off so endearing, that it sold the pairing for me even though it was rather unconventional.

The Trouble You're In (9,000 words, Teyla/Sora, Stargate Atlantis)
Again, good writing. I read femslash subtext into their relationship, so it was easy to sell this pairing to me. This isn't a happily-ever-after fic, though.

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desdema April 2 2009, 04:35:02 UTC
Thanks for the recs! I'll take a look at those.

Your mentions of canon femslash have me reevaluating what I said before about canonicity maybe being the key for me, because even then I'm still so particular. I really enjoyed Sugar Rush but never found any fic that resonated with me. Skins is next on my list of shows to check out, though, so maybe I'll find something there. I also understand how satisfaction with a show can make the fic search feel unnecessary, as that was my experience with Bad Girls. I suspect if I'd been part of the fandom as the show was airing I'd have been into fic for that one, though.

This is a topic that's swirled in my brain a lot, so thanks for prompting me to reconsider some of my assumptions.

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