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[tigerlilyaj]

I've been appreciating what the storytellers have done so far with the issue of Isaac's paintings and Hiro's time travel, i.e. nothing changes. (I'm enjoying it more than Desmond's "Lost" travels.) But they either need to show us how we've been interpreting things wrongly (very easy, as we've been given no conclusive evidence of some things many characters are assuming), or they're about to break their own rules and allow people to change the future

[jmcgarry]

I like the Conservation of Time theories in Fritz Lieber's works. You can change time, but it takes a lot of energy/work, because time wants to keep going in a path, just like its hard to move a spinning wheel due to the conservation of angular momentum.

That sounds like a lot of stories... sorta like "Such Interesting Neighbours" by Jack Finney, sorta like Lester del Rey's "...And It Comes Out Here." Could be "Time's Arrow" by Arthur C. Clarke. Its a common theme.

Spousal Issue--Look Away

[tigerlilyaj]

How many times do we have to go through this? The word "famous" that I used when asking you this question is real-world fame, not some geek definition where four dozen stories from the 20th century qualify. I'm talking Famous, like widely read, the kind that get assigned in literature classes in high school and university. ;-P ;-P ;-P
So, it is quite possible that the Arthur C. Clarke title is it, altohugh I can find surprisingly few plot points online.

[genarti]

agonistes raised a theory in chat last night -- what if Isaac wasn't just painting the future? What if he's to some extent shaping it? Not consciously, clearly, and not in terms of choosing even unconsciously which events will happen. But she looked at Sylar's painting of Nathan, all crude and menacing shapes and lurid colors, and asked what if the fact of Sylar painting that scene changes it -- changes President Nathan from conflicted to evil, and so forth?

I don't know that I buy it, on the whole, but it's interesting to poke at.

[batyatoon]

... okay the symbol's obviously significant, but is there particular significance you're seeing that is new? Is it the key to something in particular?

[silveraspen]

I think it is, actually. I'm not sure if it was just this episode or not, or if I have had too much caffeine -- but I think it's specifically pointing to something whenever it shows up.

Or I did, and then shati pointed me to the Heroes wiki, where there's a longer list of symbolic appearances than I had dreamed, so I need to go back and doublecheck. I still think it's pointing to something very specifically, though.

[saphyria]

Haitian also has the symbol! Necklace! IIRC.

Hee. Now I go to watch the new episode, myself, if it's up online. :D

[silveraspen]

He does! My interest is becoming more of the context of the scenes in which we see it, though -- especially given the show's growing focus on partnership and balance and duality.

Niki-Jess.
Peter-Sylar.
The Haitian was one of two partners for HRG; Claude being the other.
For that matter, the whole idea of the talented/normal partnership arrangement in the Linderman Group.

More coherence later, I hope.

[vureoelt]

The symbol is in a lot of places. Key to... some kind of duality, you're suggesting?

[silveraspen]

That's what I was thinking. We see it very specifically visible in an actual infinity symbol around NikiJess, which if my memory serves is the only place where we've seen that specific visualization.

There's also a pretty incredibly done visual effect in terms of colorization in the final scene with Hiro and the timeline, in which the only non-blue-washed color in the image is given by the symbol AND the timeline itself. It's a pretty neat effect, and although I recognize it could be me overanalyzing, it STILL stands out.

I'm going to go back and look at things, and see if I can't formulate this into a more coherent thesis statement.

[vureoelt]

Interesting. Even if you can't, it sounds like it sparked a bunch of exciting ideas in your head. :D