Football and blithering on about House

[silja_b]

First, a match report. I went to the Lane to watch Spurs play my *other* favourite team, the almost unknown Aalborg Boldklub. Perhaps a recap is in order: My Dad is Danish (and from just northwest of Aalborg), my sister married a Dane whose entire family are fanatical AaB supporters and then they moved to Aalborg. Yep, I was in a bit of a quandary

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[kidsnurse]

i'm afraid i'm going to disappoint you here, because--as you said at the beginning--our disagreement on the house-wilson dynamic is total, and you've already read my opinions, and my rationales for said opinions, so there's no sense retyping them [or being really lazy and copy/pasting 'em!].

i do find your opinions and rationales intriguing--i'm fascinated because i feel as if we're watching two different shows--with, it follows, two sets of characters.

we do agree on this--House does believe he deserves each negative thing that happens to him, whether it be by his own hand, wilson's, or just by the nasty universe in general.

and--in the spirit of bluntness--i'll admit to my protectiveness, if you will, of house--but i must stridently disagree that i have ever thought of him, or portrayed him, as 'blameless.' and if that's your take on my portrayal, then i have major work to do on my characterization skills [ironically, i was already thinking that that's the case, momements before your post reply came in].

anyway. i'm weary, and in pain, and so very likely couldn't possibly have picked a worse time to respond to you. you're a more-than-worthy debate opponent, and i feel my response wasn't what you're looking for, and will let you down. i do apologize, and appreciate the opportunity to read and think about your views on a subject so dear to both our hearts.

[silja_b]

I might have taken it a bit too far. Perhaps 'blameless' isn't the right word. It might be the choice of subject rather than the characterisation itself. You often write stories in which Wilson is suddenly made aware of the indignities and pain House suffers through Wilson's actions, which means that House must be in a position to have been wronged. That tilts the 'normal' balance of the show somewhat and makes House come across differently. Anyway...go! Rest! Get better (or at least less pained)! We'll talk later *hugs*

[silja_b]

Okay, I'm a complete pillock. I just heard that someone's been making arses of themselves your LJ - I'm sorry that I didn't get a chance to read the story, but better pull it than be trolled. I'm sorry if I've come across as overly critical. I hope you're okay.

[kidsnurse]

yes, thanks--much better [and a bit more sane] this morning. and... although the story is back up now, i can't, in good conscience, suggest that you read it--unless you want more ammo for the points you've previously made about my take on their relationship! *g*

i'm starting to realize that i often project my own wishful thinking about myself, and my condition, and my dependence on opioids, onto house--and i most definitely tread this distorted territory when my own discomfort is [as it very clearly was yesterday] at its worst. the best i can do here is promise to try to become more self-aware, and work at controlling that. and i will.

thank you, dear--and *hugs* back!

[silja_b]

I already did - and commented favourably so don't worry *g*

There's always an element of self-insertion (and there's an ugly image) in fanfic because we can only write from our perspective and that tends to be informed by the kinship we feel with the characters. Oddly, it often makes for interesting stories because the author can be so very passionate and because, characterisation aside, it does lend some real-life emotion to the story. It's must be a matter of keeping a good balance but I'm stuffed it I can figure out that one.

On a different note: Would you mind if I left a comment on xantemormx's comment? I feel the need to put some things straight (in a polite way of course).

[kidsnurse]

Would you mind if I left a comment on xantemormx's comment? I feel the need to put some things straight (in a polite way of course).

i'd... uh... be eternally grateful, and give you my firstborn, and write you an entire story wherein wilson doesn't once feel guilty for anything to do with house, and......

no; i don't think i'd mind too much. ;)

[silja_b]

Thanks for the offer ;)

Comment posted.

[kidsnurse]

Comment posted

umm... yeah... i know. blackmare_9 and i are currently reading it, mouths hanging open in awe... and sheer, utter gratitude.

[joe_pike_junior]

One thing that's overlooked in a study of the House/Wilson dynamic (friendship especially, but the slash dynamic also) is the fact that they're both complete arses. Wilson is manipulative and nagging, and House is, well, House.

They've both been in situations where they show a remarkable lack of caring for other people. Wilson gives as good as he gets in cruel, apt comments. They both have a sort of one-upmanship -- who can prove the other is more dysfunctional in relationships.

If I had a choice I'd take House (less lecturing, for one), but that doesn't mean House is "better" than Wilson. The show is called House... but he doesn't narrate it. Just because I prefer one character and am perhaps more sympathetic to that character doesn't mean he can do no wrong.

So while I think it is correct that the complexity of the relationship has changed, I think the most realism can be found in a situation not where both are to blame, but where both are at fault. There's a difference.

[silja_b]

I came *this* close to deleting your comment. I accidentally hit the 'delete comment' instead of the 'reply at web page' link in the alert. Crikey, their layout could use some work.

Back on subject, I think we agree. I'm not sure there is a concrete difference between being to blame and being at fault - more of a semantic one (you anti-semantic bastard! No wait. That's me). Perhaps 'blame' invokes an image of someone actively holding the other party responsible.

[joe_pike_junior]

I didn't perhaps use the right words. It's more of a subjective/objective thing.

You anti-semantic bastard! Yay, I've wanted to use that one for a while. :D