Typo subthreadalexx_kayNovember 1 2014, 05:21:14 UTC
Courtesy of my insomnia...
"Tony Soprano (or more accurately, creator David Chase) did more to reduce the stigma of "getting help", i.e. seeing a psychiatrist, than any article in the Guardian, or maybe even all the articles ever in the Guardian all together, ever did, aeb the Italian-American blue-collar (and sometimes crime-involved) men who have decided that they need therapists, too, and thronging our clinic."
Is "aeb" some word I don't know, or a typo for "and"?
"word has it that (still trying to confirm this) that"
Re: Typo subthreadsidereaNovember 1 2014, 19:45:48 UTC
Thanks! Fixed the latter two.
"aeb" should present in your browser with a little dashed underline or similar linkish sign, indicating that it's got an "abbr" tag on it, and if you mouse over it and wait a moment, it will expand the acronym.
(I am willing to entertain the possibility that maybe I know too much HTML for my own good.)
Re: Typo subthreadyakshaverNovember 1 2014, 21:57:50 UTC
In Chrome (38.0.2125.111 [Mac] and 38.0.2125.101 (64-bit) [Linux]) it has no visual indicator of linkishness. Hovering over it does, indeed, expand it - but of course I had no reason to hover over it til I read this comment. Placing the mouse pointer over it and double-clicking with the velocity of an experienced but not gaming-honed mouser does not expand it (which I would have argued in the standards committee it should); and having thus selected it, copying puts the abbrev, not the expansion, into the clipboard (which I would expect someone to propose in committee, but personally would argue against.) (Also, having thus copied it to the clipboard, pasting it into urbandictionary, as I did on initial encounter, produces two results, both reasonably clearly not useful.)
Re: Typo subthreadalexx_kayNovember 1 2014, 23:25:53 UTC
I'm on Firefox 32.0.2, and getting similar results. No visual indicator that I should hover, but hovering does give an expansion.
While I often google things before asking questions, I've learned that strings of less than about 5 characters are very likely to not produce useful results.
Re: Typo subthreadyakshaverNovember 2 2014, 00:07:07 UTC
Yeah, I'd never have Googled something that short. But I find that for unfamiliar terms or abbrevs, at least those used by people in my broader social circle, urbandictionary is usually a pretty good bet.
Works in Chrome 38.0.2125.104 m for Windows. I have to restart for an update so that should give me another data point. The dotted underline reminded me of the definition tag I use in my LJ (and have seen elseJournal) so I knew what to do.
Re: Comment CatchernancylebovNovember 1 2014, 12:50:41 UTC
I'm not sure whether "vanity" is quite the way I'd describe the stigma against people who stop taking their meds, though I'm not entirely sure you're wrong, either.
My impression is that the default claim is that people are irresponsibly refusing to tolerate side effects. By implication, the side effects aren't all that bad. (I'm willing to bet that the side effects are sometimes quite serious.)
A secondary claim is that people don't want to take pills when they're feeling well (this is the part where I might agree with you). This could be reduced to "vanity", but it's presumably the same reason people aren't reliable about finishing their prescribed antibiotics.
Arguably, it's all stigma, but it's an amplified stigma against the mentally ill. I believe the reason patients get bad treatment in American hospitals (for example, their need for sleep is ignored) is that just being sick is to be low status.
Re: Comment CatchersidereaNovember 1 2014, 20:08:35 UTC
My impression is that the default claim is that people are irresponsibly refusing to tolerate side effects.
I am willing to believe this happens, but I get the impression that if the conversation you're finding yourself in involves admitting that psychiatric medications have side effects of any sort, even if just to dismiss them, you're already dealing with a more informed and enlightened interlocutor than most of the general public.
I'm willing to bet that the side effects are sometimes quite serious.
Sometimes life-threatening. Last year, I had a patient get Serotonin Syndrome and wind up in a coma for four days, hospitalized for 19, and only really survived the initial seizure because his wife was trained as a CNA, happened to have an oxygen tank in the house, and is really, really quick thinking
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Re: Comment CatcherfabrisseNovember 2 2014, 00:37:02 UTC
Serotonin Syndrome? Just looked it up and am glad psychiatrist agreed with me about dosages.
My mom, who as you know is not a poster child for mental health herself, actually called me weak for taking my antidepressants at breakfast the last time I saw her.
Then there's the whole "Why can't you control yourself" assumption which seems to be part of the most recent bad moment vis-a-vis the office. The fact that I'd tried to explain why changing job functions might not be good for me, that I'd coordinated among three doctors to try to balance my medications, that I'd called my doctor (and gotten and taken advice) in a timely fashion, etc. was not taken into account by the supervisors (immediate supervisor fine, her superiors, not so much). I'm still waiting for my first individual therapy appointment, too.
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"Tony Soprano (or more accurately, creator David Chase) did more to reduce the stigma of "getting help", i.e. seeing a psychiatrist, than any article in the Guardian, or maybe even all the articles ever in the Guardian all together, ever did, aeb the Italian-American blue-collar (and sometimes crime-involved) men who have decided that they need therapists, too, and thronging our clinic."
Is "aeb" some word I don't know, or a typo for "and"?
"word has it that (still trying to confirm this) that"
I think the first "that" is misplaced/redundant.
"something to so wrong"
ITYM "go".
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"aeb" should present in your browser with a little dashed underline or similar linkish sign, indicating that it's got an "abbr" tag on it, and if you mouse over it and wait a moment, it will expand the acronym.
(I am willing to entertain the possibility that maybe I know too much HTML for my own good.)
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While I often google things before asking questions, I've learned that strings of less than about 5 characters are very likely to not produce useful results.
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My impression is that the default claim is that people are irresponsibly refusing to tolerate side effects. By implication, the side effects aren't all that bad. (I'm willing to bet that the side effects are sometimes quite serious.)
A secondary claim is that people don't want to take pills when they're feeling well (this is the part where I might agree with you). This could be reduced to "vanity", but it's presumably the same reason people aren't reliable about finishing their prescribed antibiotics.
Arguably, it's all stigma, but it's an amplified stigma against the mentally ill. I believe the reason patients get bad treatment in American hospitals (for example, their need for sleep is ignored) is that just being sick is to be low status.
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I am willing to believe this happens, but I get the impression that if the conversation you're finding yourself in involves admitting that psychiatric medications have side effects of any sort, even if just to dismiss them, you're already dealing with a more informed and enlightened interlocutor than most of the general public.
I'm willing to bet that the side effects are sometimes quite serious.
Sometimes life-threatening. Last year, I had a patient get Serotonin Syndrome and wind up in a coma for four days, hospitalized for 19, and only really survived the initial seizure because his wife was trained as a CNA, happened to have an oxygen tank in the house, and is really, really quick thinking ( ... )
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My mom, who as you know is not a poster child for mental health herself, actually called me weak for taking my antidepressants at breakfast the last time I saw her.
Then there's the whole "Why can't you control yourself" assumption which seems to be part of the most recent bad moment vis-a-vis the office. The fact that I'd tried to explain why changing job functions might not be good for me, that I'd coordinated among three doctors to try to balance my medications, that I'd called my doctor (and gotten and taken advice) in a timely fashion, etc. was not taken into account by the supervisors (immediate supervisor fine, her superiors, not so much). I'm still waiting for my first individual therapy appointment, too.
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