Feels like this happened weeks ago and not this past Saturday.
I didn't want to post about it immediately because I didn't want to be someone who goes straight to DW/LJ when shit goes down, but this past week Tumblr has been doing very irritating things so I might as well. And for the love of fuck, stop fawning over Karla. Rape jokes aren't funny.
So some genius on Tumblr decided that it was Unpopular Opinion Time and thought it was totally okay to talk about her fellow Supernatural fans...in public Internet space.
Yes, people are defending her opinion:
Love you for speaking that out loud!! <3 I am not a slim girl (you know ; D) but I didn’t get offended because it’s FUGGIN’ TRUTH! That doesn’t only count for SP fandom, but every fandom on this planet. Guys, be a little bit more aware of yourselves.
No, she doesn't get what the hell she said to generate a lot of anger:
Oh my, please just read my post T_T I am NOT saying that everyone is like that, I am talking about the fans who represent a large part of the fandom and all they do is embarass us so that some nice, sweet girls I know are SCARED to go to another con because they think that the boys would feel stalked an think that they are crazy. NOT everyone is fat and ugly (and I know the words sound harsh but sorry, it’s the truth imo) and not everybody who is one or both is embarassing or badly dressed or stupid or anything. I’m just saying that I have seen and witnessed enough of those kind to know what I am talking about. For chrissakes, I am NOT a hater, I don’t want EVERYONE to be offended now, I know that I am not a beauty queen myself but at least I am trying to at least dress myself properly, u know? But I guess I can write that as often as I want, now everybody’s like “OMG KILL THAT STUPID BITCH!!11” -_- *sigh*
I guess tumblr’s not a good platform to have a srs discussion after all…
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no, I am NOT a hater o_O listen to what I am saying… I think not only I have noticed that the boys seem to feel uncomfortable with the way some fans behave or - yeah - look. Of course they feel a little intimidated when a fat, hysteric fangirl jumps them and who can blame them if they look scared or simply annoyed on many of those ops. I have SEEN enough ops like this and read enough posts about ‘experiences’ with such fans. That’s why I am saying this. I am NOT saying everybody is like this, never did (read my first post). It’s just that I am most of the time embarassed by the things some of said fans do or ask… and I am not the only one, I know enough people who think EXACTLY the same and are ashamed of part of the fandom. Just nobody has the guts to say it out loud so I guess I gotta take it all on me now.
Once again - I am NOT the hater here, I am starting a discussion and everybody who’s replying with ‘you’re such a moron, get a life, fuck you etc.’ ?! YOU are the haters obviously…
But most people are calling her out for it and telling her to kindly shut the fuck up, which, it looks like, she did.
Anyway, here's the comments I left on this clusterfuck of a blog post:
"I'm not a racist, but.."
"I'm not a sexist, but..."
"I'm not a homophobe, but..."
"I'm not an ableist, but..."
"I'm not a classist, but..."
"I'm not a sizeist, but..."
"I'm not a hater, but..."
You are an insensitive shallow sizeist jerk. "Unpopular Opinion Time" isn't "Air My Shallow Fatphobic Grievances Time". If you want to think such thoughts keep it to yourself. Thanks for stirring shit up and hurting a lot of people, especially your fellow fans. Way to aggravate and perpetuate the stigma against people who aren't skinny and/or pretty. You think that just because it's the Internet you can say whatever you want and get away with it? Why do you care so fucking much about how your fellow fans should look? Are you really that ashamed of seen with us? Get out of my fandom and grow the fuck up.
And to everyone who says "Well I have friends who watch Supernatural who are hot/well I'm not fat", IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. It's about someone who's judging fans who don't meet her standards of hot/pretty/skinny, and being fucking hurtful and insensitive about it.
P.S. As I'm sure people will decide how they're going to dress "appropriately" kindly fuck off.
You know what really irritates me? This graphic about SPN's three stars and their (pretty epic) wives. (eta: link isn't working but since I'm not keen on digging it up I'll just explain it - it says that every girl on Tumblr wants to be Danneel/Gen/Vicki and married to Jensen/Jared/Misha) I don't want to know about their lives - RPS/RPF and RL are not interchangeable for me - but this in particular infuriates me because it just reinforces heteronormativity in my face. Just what I needed to see following this sizeist opinion wank and the argument with an apparent BNF in the Dean/Cas corner on Tumblr over zir increasingly awful misogynistic comments. What failsauce, SPN fandom.
And now for something completely different: I think I'll turn the PWP into an experimental sexual/asexual pairing dynamic and try not to worry if it's set in S4, S5, or S6. I want this to be as plotless as possible; I don't need to fret over when in the timeline this is happening, plus I want to see if I can make sexual/asexual work.
I really want to make a post about my thoughts on asexuality, identifying as asexual, and reading/writing relationships and porn. No, I still haven't forgotten the discussions about writing SPN angels as a|sexual beings; when it comes to these things I have an unfortunately long memory.
So some genius on Tumblr decided that it was Unpopular Opinion Time and thought it was totally okay to talk about her fellow Supernatural fans...in public Internet space.
Yes, people are defending her opinion:
Love you for speaking that out loud!! <3 I am not a slim girl (you know ; D) but I didn’t get offended because it’s FUGGIN’ TRUTH! That doesn’t only count for SP fandom, but every fandom on this planet. Guys, be a little bit more aware of yourselves.
No, she doesn't get what the hell she said to generate a lot of anger:
Oh my, please just read my post T_T I am NOT saying that everyone is like that, I am talking about the fans who represent a large part of the fandom and all they do is embarass us so that some nice, sweet girls I know are SCARED to go to another con because they think that the boys would feel stalked an think that they are crazy. NOT everyone is fat and ugly (and I know the words sound harsh but sorry, it’s the truth imo) and not everybody who is one or both is embarassing or badly dressed or stupid or anything. I’m just saying that I have seen and witnessed enough of those kind to know what I am talking about. For chrissakes, I am NOT a hater, I don’t want EVERYONE to be offended now, I know that I am not a beauty queen myself but at least I am trying to at least dress myself properly, u know? But I guess I can write that as often as I want, now everybody’s like “OMG KILL THAT STUPID BITCH!!11” -_- *sigh*
I guess tumblr’s not a good platform to have a srs discussion after all…
&
no, I am NOT a hater o_O listen to what I am saying… I think not only I have noticed that the boys seem to feel uncomfortable with the way some fans behave or - yeah - look. Of course they feel a little intimidated when a fat, hysteric fangirl jumps them and who can blame them if they look scared or simply annoyed on many of those ops. I have SEEN enough ops like this and read enough posts about ‘experiences’ with such fans. That’s why I am saying this. I am NOT saying everybody is like this, never did (read my first post). It’s just that I am most of the time embarassed by the things some of said fans do or ask… and I am not the only one, I know enough people who think EXACTLY the same and are ashamed of part of the fandom. Just nobody has the guts to say it out loud so I guess I gotta take it all on me now.
Once again - I am NOT the hater here, I am starting a discussion and everybody who’s replying with ‘you’re such a moron, get a life, fuck you etc.’ ?! YOU are the haters obviously…
But most people are calling her out for it and telling her to kindly shut the fuck up, which, it looks like, she did.
Anyway, here's the comments I left on this clusterfuck of a blog post:
"I'm not a racist, but.."
"I'm not a sexist, but..."
"I'm not a homophobe, but..."
"I'm not an ableist, but..."
"I'm not a classist, but..."
"I'm not a sizeist, but..."
"I'm not a hater, but..."
You are an insensitive shallow sizeist jerk. "Unpopular Opinion Time" isn't "Air My Shallow Fatphobic Grievances Time". If you want to think such thoughts keep it to yourself. Thanks for stirring shit up and hurting a lot of people, especially your fellow fans. Way to aggravate and perpetuate the stigma against people who aren't skinny and/or pretty. You think that just because it's the Internet you can say whatever you want and get away with it? Why do you care so fucking much about how your fellow fans should look? Are you really that ashamed of seen with us? Get out of my fandom and grow the fuck up.
And to everyone who says "Well I have friends who watch Supernatural who are hot/well I'm not fat", IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. It's about someone who's judging fans who don't meet her standards of hot/pretty/skinny, and being fucking hurtful and insensitive about it.
P.S. As I'm sure people will decide how they're going to dress "appropriately" kindly fuck off.
You know what really irritates me? This graphic about SPN's three stars and their (pretty epic) wives. (eta: link isn't working but since I'm not keen on digging it up I'll just explain it - it says that every girl on Tumblr wants to be Danneel/Gen/Vicki and married to Jensen/Jared/Misha) I don't want to know about their lives - RPS/RPF and RL are not interchangeable for me - but this in particular infuriates me because it just reinforces heteronormativity in my face. Just what I needed to see following this sizeist opinion wank and the argument with an apparent BNF in the Dean/Cas corner on Tumblr over zir increasingly awful misogynistic comments. What failsauce, SPN fandom.
And now for something completely different: I think I'll turn the PWP into an experimental sexual/asexual pairing dynamic and try not to worry if it's set in S4, S5, or S6. I want this to be as plotless as possible; I don't need to fret over when in the timeline this is happening, plus I want to see if I can make sexual/asexual work.
I really want to make a post about my thoughts on asexuality, identifying as asexual, and reading/writing relationships and porn. No, I still haven't forgotten the discussions about writing SPN angels as a|sexual beings; when it comes to these things I have an unfortunately long memory.