Well I mean, I know someone on another site who dissected all of s3 and I think some of s4 with the overarching themes, and did it BRILLIANTLY. I'll have to go take another look at his work and see which of the Moffat episodes have more in common with this one/series five.
Anmd okay, those last two things were like, jokes. They're just random things I thought of at 3AM and threw in, not something I'm seriously considering. :P
I am agreeing more now that Moffat's portrayal of women isn't all that great, although RTD did his fair share of damage as well.
Aah, with Moffat and RTD, you usually either love one and hate the other or are simply indifferent with both.
Like RTD's 'gay agenda' - people who love that naturally tend to dislike Moffat for not including it, or the opposite.
I can point out things with RTD and female characters too, probably.. they're all defined by the Doctor, it's all how the Doctor makes them better people.. Rose was selfish to a fault, Martha was like Rose but minus mutual attraction and finally managed to let go ...and wound up marrying Mickey, and Donna thought nothing of herself until the Doctor made her better and then bam she's lost her memory of it all.
Yeah, she wasn't entirely selfish, but she had plenty of moments. And yeah, more and more now it's about the appearance/attractiveness... River's different because there's still a lot we don't know, but to me at least she seems to have a few more layers than say, Amy or whoever.
I can definitely understand now what you mean about Moffat. He does have excellent storytelling ideas/techniques and dialogue, but -- wait, what. Did Moffat or RTD say those quotes you brought up? *annoyed at both of them*
Oh, haha, you're so not the only one who has issues with Donna's ending.
Yeaah, point taken. But surely they could have a decent enough life outside of meeting the Doctor? Rose/Martha/Donna's first episodes were all blah to me because it had so much about their families and how much their lives sucked.
I'd actually like to see the Doctor pick up a companion who was doing rather well.. not superbly, mind you, still having a few problems, but less with the nagging families and living at home and more of the self-dependence?
Okay, fair enough. One of the few things that I liked about her character, now that you bring it up. Of course this is totally overshadowed when she's ripped from her life and starts fawning all over emo!Ten.
Gotta agree there, even though the year had a big reset button. Her personal arc ends best because she's the only one to learn to be her own person. Rose doesn't get the picture and Donna's wiped. Funny how I like her least, though. Weird. S3 just didn't do a lot for me overall.
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Anmd okay, those last two things were like, jokes. They're just random things I thought of at 3AM and threw in, not something I'm seriously considering. :P
I am agreeing more now that Moffat's portrayal of women isn't all that great, although RTD did his fair share of damage as well.
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Like RTD's 'gay agenda' - people who love that naturally tend to dislike Moffat for not including it, or the opposite.
I can point out things with RTD and female characters too, probably.. they're all defined by the Doctor, it's all how the Doctor makes them better people.. Rose was selfish to a fault, Martha was like Rose but minus mutual attraction and finally managed to let go ...and wound up marrying Mickey, and Donna thought nothing of herself until the Doctor made her better and then bam she's lost her memory of it all.
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And yeah, more and more now it's about the appearance/attractiveness... River's different because there's still a lot we don't know, but to me at least she seems to have a few more layers than say, Amy or whoever.
I can definitely understand now what you mean about Moffat. He does have excellent storytelling ideas/techniques and dialogue, but -- wait, what. Did Moffat or RTD say those quotes you brought up? *annoyed at both of them*
Oh, haha, you're so not the only one who has issues with Donna's ending.
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I'm always open to other sides of the picture, thanks!
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I'd actually like to see the Doctor pick up a companion who was doing rather well.. not superbly, mind you, still having a few problems, but less with the nagging families and living at home and more of the self-dependence?
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