This is a place for all sorts of off-topic discussion.
You can post anon or un-anon, per your personal preference, as usual.
All I ask is that you stay civil and (hopefully) friendly.
If you also want to use this thread to try to find a beta for a fic, or ask a brit-pick-ish question, I think that would be an acceptable use. Have fun!
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(Anonymous)
2011-05-19 12:46 am
American here.
"high street stripy jumper"
I'm curious what does the term "high street" indicate? Thanks!
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Re: The Everthere Part 6b/?
(Anonymous)
2011-05-19 01:09 am
Buying something off the high street just means buying clothes from one of the many
brand-chain stores that you see whilst out shopping (the 'high street' would usually
refer to the centre of town where most of the shops are).
Daniel is looking down on John for buying clothes straight off the peg, as opposed to
having something specially made to measure by a tailor.
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Re: The Everthere Part 6b/?
2011-05-19 01:53 am UTC
Maybe like if you bought it at the mall, in the US?
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(Anonymous)
2011-05-19 02:12 am UTC
Maybe more like you bought it at Walmart and not Aeropostale or some really
exclusive store in the US. Maybe?
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Re: The Everthere Part 6b/?
(Anonymous)
2011-05-19 05:27 am UTC
That makes the most sense as a cultural translation.
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hbomb90
2011-05-19 06:46 am UTC
It's my headcanon that John buys most of his clothes that he doesn't
wear to work at cheap shops like H&M (do you have that in the U.S?) or second
hand shops... basically he's me :D
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Re: The Everthere Part 6b/?
shoedog
2011-05-20 02:20 am UTC
Since I was the anon that wanted to know what the term meant and
received such prompt, informative answers, I figure I owe it to you to
answer your question!
We have H&M in mostly large US cities on either coast.
http://www.hm.com/us/store-locator
On the west coast, the furthest ones toward the east looks like Las
Vegas, Nevada and Tucson, Arizona.
The east coast seems to have many more than the west. The furthest east
heading west stores are located in Minneapolis, Minnesota and St. Louis, Missouri.
I'm now living in Southern Illinois, so the St. Louis one would be closest to me.
There appear to be none at all in what snobs deem 'The Fly-Over
States.'
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(Anonymous)
2011-05-20 02:34 am UTC
Completely OT but: I lived in one for 12 months and then left and
came back to the west coast because I couldn't take it anymore.
I was the only non-white person I encountered most days and had a
woman ask if I were from Africa at work one day. (I'm of Asian
descent.)
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Re: It's not all snobbery...
hbomb90
2011-05-21 01:09 am UTC
D: That's a Bit Not Good. Or indeed A Lot Not Good.
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shoedog
2011-05-22 04:03 am UTC (link)
Sorry for the delay in my reply. It took me forever to type up
because I don't know when to shush it.
Not journal pimping, cross my heart. but my reaction to that silly
woman and an 'if you peer hard really hard' experience of my own
are at my lj journal
if you're interested.
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Re: The Everthere Part 6b/?
hbomb90
2011-05-21 01:17 am UTC
Ah thanks! Wow..somany Hennes... how many people across the
world own the same yellow submarine Beatles t shirt as me? I was
basically trying to get across that our precious BAMF Johnny is not a
label whore, I sometimes forget that I use colloquilasms. If you spot
any more please feel free to ask! Pick at my Brit, I love it :D
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Re: The Everthere Part 6b/?
shoedog
2011-05-22 01:10 am UTC
No, no! I lurve colloquialisms.
The Brit pick brouhaha is as perplexing to me as my husband'
apparent need to explain, in more detail than I thought humanly
possible, his beloved National League baseball to me.
Unknown expressions, phrases, region nicknames, all that stuff is
fascinating to me. When you see an anon post asking, 'What does
(fill in the blank) mean? Do you know its origin?" one out of five
odds, it's me.
I've not yet been to H&M. I want to go, but the last thing I need
right now is clothes as I'm trying to be minimalist, tough going for
a pack rat.
I practically orgasmed when I visited 'Lush,' spent way
more money then I should, even on those bathbombs, especially
for a confirmed shower-er. I still itch and sometimes succumb, to
order online.
I love other countries versions of US's 'Target. 'Kohls'' or
'Walgreens.' As a small business owner, not Wal-mart. Grrrrr.
Years ago I remember tearing around a Clichy Monoprix, gleefully
stockpiling funky tights, Petite Bateu t-shirts, pretty journals,
almond and ylang-ylang shampoos, soaps and lotions and tons of
Bourjois cosmetics that hadn't yet made their way stateside. So
much fun!
Love me inexpensive stores featuring interesting,
quality goods, in different countries or regions of the states.
And I love this story.
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hbomb90
2011-05-23 12:27 am
H&M is pretty fab.I'm a student so I can't spend a lot ofmoney
on stuff like clothes... (replace 'can't with 'shouldn't but
somehow still manage to')...so it's cheap and pretty stylish.
And oh my God Lush! I got a bath bomb for my birthday from
my friend and I didn't read the label...and itwas Full.Of. Glitter.
The day before I had an important tutor meeting with my head
of department. I went sparkly.Like lame vampire sparkly.
Fortunately my winning personality and general awesomeness
won out,but theguy was totally like 'Why is this girl refracting
everywhere?'.
So I'm guessing in the U.S it's kind of like you have to drive a
long way to get decent shops if you live out in the sticks?I live
in the countryside when I'm not at uni and my nearest town is
fifteen miles away and my nearest city is like twenty miles
away, but I always foget that the states is freaking huge and
the whole of England fits into Texas about 70 times (slight
exaggeration there...probably) And yay for small businesses!
I work for one too!
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(Anonymous)
2011-05-23 03:02 am UTC
Depends on what part of the States you're in. The Midwest
tends to be VERY open country. A common joke among my
Midwestern friends is that "There's corn and corn and... OH!
some cows!" in the Midwest. (No offense to anyone from
that area meant. I swear I'm repeating what they've said.
And they come from Kansas, Oklahoma, and Chicago, Ill., so
I tend to believe them with a little room for possible
exaggeration.)
Here in the East, some places are like that, but mostly we
have cities so close together we're falling over each other.
Takes me 15 mins with some traffic to drive into my nearest
city discounting my own smaller one. (And we are
considered a city, despite the approximately 6 cops on the
city police force. XDD)
Still, the small towns probably won't have the big name
stores, unless they are something like Walmart. We just got
a LUSH here in my city finally. I think I nearly died of squee
when I saw it at the mall. H&M... was really expensive I
thought when I went there, and is in the one pricey mall for
my state. So... I think I only went in once when my friend
needed a bathroom and I apparently needed to be run over
by a lady having a bad day by the sweater-coats. XDD I've
decided to stick to the Barnes&Noble since then, lol.
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travels_in_time
2011-05-23 03:40 am
"There's corn and corn and... OH! some cows!"
Hey! We have soybeans too!
/Midwest representation
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(Anonymous)
2011-05-23 03:57 am UTC
AHA!! There was some exaggeration then!! I knew it!
ROFLMAO! >3
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travels_in_time
2011-05-23 04:13 am UTC
I just moved here recently from Louisiana, and your
comment made me laugh out loud because my
mom came to visit, and I overheard her describing
it to my grandmother. "Oh, yes, it's very nice. Lots
of...space. They have lots of cornfields, and, oh,
some soybeans, and...more cornfields..." So pretty
much word for word, there. :D
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shoedog
2011-05-23 10:03 pm UTC
Lucky for me, Southern Illinois or 'Little Egypt, as it is
known, is at the edge of the Shawnee National Forest,
surrounded on three sides by the three of the most
sizable rivers in the states, the Wabash, the Mississippi,
and the Ohio.
The last two form a valley w/fertile land like the Egypt’s
Nile delta. Hence the profusion of badly pronounced
Egyptian town names, my favorite being 'Cairo.' ('said like
Karo syrup')
Southern Illinois is truly geographically different from the
rest of the flat, flat midwest. Since this are was only
slightly covered by a continental ice sheet back in time,
we are way more more hilly, humid, green and rocky.
Closer to the geography of the Ozarks than the rest of
Illinois.
Granted St Louis, the largest metropolis is an hour and a
half to two hour drive but the Makanda and the
Shawnnee National Forest (Depicted below) is a 15 to 20
minute drive. So I don't mind the trade off.
Small businesses rock!
I want to make it to an H&M just to see it and go to an ~~~~~~~so embarrassed~~~~~~~~Ikea, the closet in the Chicagoland area, a 5 and a half hour drive away. Ikea has really strigent shipping rules. I don't understand why the refuse to ship this medicine cabinet:
It's a matter of padding it securely, tossing it in a box,
adding stuffing and shipping it out.
I'd ask my brother in Texas but his idea of shipping is
wrapping said object in brown paper, writing the address
and mailing. I still haven't glued together my last birthday
gift from him, the shattered pieces of the painted on wood,
framed w/painted slats abstract oil I admired at his friend's
studio. I shudder to think of the condition the medicine
cabinet would arrive in.
Not having access to interesting shops saves me $$$$
though.
Do you like flea markets?
We REALLY should move our discussion to 'Chatter."
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Re: Off topic ramblings or 'author likes random chats'
(Anonymous)
2011-05-23 11:00 pm UTC
Yes, you really should.
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Re: Off topic ramblings or 'author likes random chats'
shoedog
2011-05-23 11:32 pm UTC
Yes, I really should.
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dinadandelion
2011-05-24 01:16 am UTC
OP takes a break from watching tornado coverage to join in someone else's conversation!
I got one of my favorite dresses at H&M this winter! I find there are other cheaper stores, though, so I don't shop there too often.
THe US is big! I live in Maryland (small and on the East Coast, for those not familiar with it). I'm in a rural/suburban area (The two tend to mix around here; we're in the "megalopolis" area of America, so the region is pretty consistently developed from Boston to DC. /geography geek) so everything's a 15-30 minute drive from where I am.
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H&M looked like it had some cute clothes!! Though I just looked at the price tags the one time I went in and was like, yep. Sticking to cheaper places til I manage a new job. I hate this economy. Not to mention wishy-washy potential employers. XD
And I love it how EVERYONE seems to say almost the exact same thing about the Midwest...And it always features corn. XD But it IS a BEAUTIFUL area. And that was a GORGEOUS picture shoedog!
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'And that was a GORGEOUS picture shoedog!'
Isn't it? One thing about my area though. It must be the vacation destination for every tick in the midwest. Even walking the dogs around the block means a tick check of the dogs and ourselves in the summer. And there is no creepier feeling than half asleep in bed and that tickling feeling of a baby tick crawling across a limb or torso. Shudder!
I thought H&M is supposed to be about cheap, one season type clothes? So why is everyone commenting how pricey it is? I don't mind clothes not washing well, lasting more than a year if the price is right but expensive and poor-quality? Deal breaker, ladies.
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High-street in this case wouldn't mean shops like H&M, that's too young and upmarket. It would be M&S or Tesco. H&M is primarily a very young women's shop in the UK, full of the latest fashions for skinny kids. The thought of John shopping there is quite funny.
The joke is of course that Martin Freeman is a fashion whore and the clothes they bought for John were quite up-market and far more expensive and designer than the ones a real John Watson would wear.
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Where I am H&M is the kind of place that sells throw away clothes (cheap enough that getting only a few wears out of it isn't a problem.) It used to be the cheapest place to buy fashionable clothes around here. Now we have a Primark and half the country comes shopping here.
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It seemed mid to high end department store, sort of like the US Bloomingdales or Gumps.
I bought a silk/cotton sweater set there that I never wore and finally gave away. It made me feel like I should wear a wide headband, carry a Coach bag and drink Pimms Cups. I don't know what I was thinking when I bought it. I guess it's that fantasy that someday I'll wake up and love cooking and gardening.
I'm more the rumpled (Read un-ironed) cotton, linen, hair loose, Mexican bolsa shopping bag and Jack Daniels on the rocks type.
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My family went to West Virginia for vacation a year or two ago, and we were caught off guard by how tiny and isolated the town we stayed in was. And yet it was considered the local population center! (My parents adored the utter lack of traffic, though. Being the only people on the highway was a rare and pleasant experience!
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