Two SH book reviews: “Ms Holmes of Baker Street” and “The Tale Not Told”.

Jun 22, 2008 19:33



In this post I’m going to voice some of my feelings regarding the books “Ms Holmes of Baker Street” by C. Alan Bradley, William A.S. Sarjeant and “The Tale Not Told” by Constance Wilder-Wokoun (I'm not really writing book reviews as such as I've forgotten what format you're supposed to use when writing them, it's been a long time since I did it at ( Read more... )

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Re: part 2 reply Fraser as a woman sharon28 June 24 2008, 21:24:02 UTC
Now in this day and age men do that sort of thing but still Fraser's values do seem out of step with the rest of the world around him and you might not expect him to be so protective of a child, particularly one that isn't his own.

Isn't that more of a native American (or Canadian) type viewpoint? Isn't it part of their values to help any child within the village. Which would also explain why Quinn takes responsibility for Fraser when they first meet (in Easy Money).

And Bob Fraser, although he makes it clear Benton is his son, also mentions that Benton's desire to tlak about feelings is a woman thing.

I think because of Bob Fraser using the term "son" it rules out anything but an AU on the idea that Fraser would be a woman disguising herself as a man. In the case of Holmes, in the Greek Interpreter the first story which features Mycroft, he says "Come in Sherlock, come in sir", instead of the easier "Come in gentlemen", which could be because he doesn't want to openly lie about his sister. Dead Bob would have no reason to lie because Fraser is the only one (most of the time) who could see him, plus if dead Bob is just part of Fraser's imagination, why would he be lying to himself?

He is also subtle, his emotional manipulation for example is a tactic we might more often associate with women rather than men.

That could be more of a result of having been raised by a grandmother (and she was clearly a more dominant figure than his grandfather, almost nothing is known about him), though I do take the point that he has lots of female characteristics. Though as I said earlier, I don't think this idea would work as anything other than an AU. Ponders if this would work as some sort of challenge:)

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Re: part 2 reply Fraser as a woman aingeal8c June 24 2008, 21:36:13 UTC
Isn't that more of a native American (or Canadian) type viewpoint? Isn't it part of their values to help any child within the village. Which would also explain why Quinn takes responsibility for Fraser when they first meet (in Easy Money).

It could be but Fraser takes on the responsibility of caring for the baby pretty much single handedly. He cajoles Ray into burping him but as soon as he has Fraser takes over. The way he does with that baby is more suggestive as a woman. And it is a baby rather a young child. The native American viewpoint of helping children in the village certainly fits with Willie (and you can draw a parallel with Fraser taking Willie under his wing as Quinn taking young Fraser under his wing). But would a man ina village take responsility in the same way for a young baby? Fraser is an older child when Quinn begins to mentor him.

I think because of Bob Fraser using the term "son" it rules out anything but an AU on the idea that Fraser would be a woman disguising herself as a man.

Unless that Bob Fraser is osme sort of mental construct on behalf of Fraser. Perhaps Fraser if he was a woman disguised himself as a man because he knew how much his father wanted a son to carry on the fmaily name and tradtition. As a result when he imagines his dead father it is that context of Fraser being the son that Bob desired. We do hear Bib Fraser saying he in the voiceover in the pilot but again we don't actually see the words, we are hearing them in Fraser's head as he hears his father. Our perecotion of Bob is filtered through Fraser unlike in the Holmes stories which are filtered through Watson and more likely to simply state the facts.

That could be more of a result of having been raised by a grandmother (and she was clearly a more dominant figure than his grandfather, almost nothing is known about him), though I do take the point that he has lots of female characteristics. Though as I said earlier, I don't think this idea would work as anything other than an AU. Ponders if this would work as some sort of challenge:)

Tis is true but it's interesting how he has great admiration for the female figure in his life. He speaks a lot about her acheivements, we never see him mention her flaws which is interesting.

He does seem to have female leanings.

I think it could be made to work in canon but it would require a lot of filtering of certain cnaon facts.

AU is always good though.

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