Afghanistan:against the good war

Dec 10, 2008 03:40


Article basically about how the U.S.invasion is harming Afghanistan rather than helping: http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=481&issue=120

Though not directly about feminism, it is mentioned in the context of the 80s Soviet Invasion and also discusses how RAWA (Afghanistan woman's rights group) is against the American occupation. Note:the article is ( Read more... )

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charles_rb December 11 2008, 01:16:37 UTC
There's a lot that don't side with them, let's remember.

And I'm betting an even bigger number who don't give a crap who's in charge as long as they can get on with stuff and not get killed, raped, injured et al.

Both groups are fucked and we did it, in the latter group literally in many cases. What a fucking cock-up. After December 2001,

Side note - the article alledges the US made a deal with the Taleban so they'd leave. Now that I've not heard and it's impossible to fact-check and I wouldn't take that one writer on their word.

However, I do know that America allowed local militias to go ahead of them to Tora Bora so they didn't have to (which fucked up cos those guys weren't really bothered about Al-Qaeda IIRC, they just wanted the Taleban out); we've made deals with tribal militias in Afghanistan and Sunni militias in Iraq to have a quiet life (even though the militias and Iraqi government are opposed to each other); America likes minimising its casualties. I'm not going to take that claim as outright truth just on that article, but it does sound like something that could be true.

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charles_rb December 11 2008, 01:20:47 UTC
Sorry, "after December 2001" was meant to continue "we were in a position to rebuild the nation as a more stable country, with a friendly/proxy government in at least the short term. And then we go on to do basic things wrong afterwards. The incompetence is staggering."

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elastic_spam December 11 2008, 01:36:42 UTC
True, I think the issue is that we helped em defend their country against the soviets and we forgot about the country after that. I don't know, I understand Obama's intentions with the putting troops in Afghanistan,but I think it's too late now. I don't know: sorry for sounding like an imperialist.

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charles_rb December 11 2008, 11:45:10 UTC
It does look entirely too late, sadly. It might work if the new troops are primarily tasked to assist in infrastructure building (as that would help with stability and reducing Taleban support), but in that case I can see the Taleban deliberately taking out that infrastructure (to keep instability and their support).

And god knows what effect Pakistan will have on it or vice versa...

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