Glee: We just hate atheists and agnostics, okay?

[shaebay]

I think that a small portion of my f-listers are fans of Glee, and I know that a large portion of my f-listers have the same religious beliefs as I do. If you'll excuse me, I'd like to

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[jolfolfille]

I don't know, I disagree. =/ I thought Kurt made several excellent arguments for the side of atheism, and the whole thing with Emma and Sue was great - Emma saying "that's what you believe, but please don't shove it down our throats" and Sue saying "yeah, exactly." I thought that was awesome. I also think the whole storyline with Grilled Cheesus was supposed to be sort of poking fun at all the religious crazies, which I thought it did cleverly

[shaebay]

I really don't think there was anything wrong with Kurt's attitude in the beginning, and he didn't need to find something to believe in.

I keep going back to TLo's recap of the episode, because it was able to say so many things I cannot find words for. This bit is especially perfect - "Look, you want to do a pro-religion episode? Do that. Own it. But don't start off as if you're showing all points of view, only to have one point depicted as flawed at the end. They didn't have the balls to have Sue and Kurt happily embrace their atheism. Very disappointing

[jolfolfille]

I guess I didn't pay as much attention to the atheism/Christianity storyline as to Finn being ridiculous and Kurt's dad. =/ But I do agree with the quote you mentioned, and now that I've read your thoughts and thought about it a bit more myself, I think you're right. They didn't do as good a job as I previously said, and that is sad. =/

But I do still think it was supposed to be more about character development than making a statement on what is "right" in terms of faith. And I still think they were trying to do it well, but in terms of reviews and viewers and popularity, portraying atheism as an acceptable choice in religion is not something a TV show really wants to do. In that case, though, I don't think they should have touched the subject at all. =/

I don't know. I guess I just didn't take it as seriously as you did (wow, that sounds like a jab or something, but it's totally not O_o), because I really did enjoy the episode. =/

[charming_goats]

I honestly don't feel like the religious side learned anything at all from it

[shaebay]

Can you imagine if Kurt was Christian and they came to pray in a non-traditional manner (such as a Wiccan ritual)? People would have been freaking out on Kurt's behalf, but because Kurt was an atheist, his opinions on religion are somehow less valid.

This x1000000000000000000000

[jolfolfille]

Agreed. =/

[jolfolfille]

I agree with most of this, actually - I guess I just wasn't paying as much attention to this part of the plot, so I didn't take it as seriously as you guys did. But I do agree, and now that I'm thinking about it seriously, I definitely see how offensive it is to anyone of non-Christian faith, or no faith, as the case may be.

And I really hated the part with Mercedes at the end, where she was basically like "it's totally okay for you to not believe in God, but you should believe in God anyway." I also didn't like the praying-at-the-beside bit, but I honestly thought it made more of a statement about how pushy and ridiculous Christians are than anything else.

I don't know. I liked the episode, but like I said, I didn't take the religion debate seriously. I was paying more attention to the characters and the drama. :D