Rants! I Has Some

[shadowravyn]

Also known as: shadowravyn has Opinions (news at 11).

So, touchthesoul, who is made of awesome and great, posted this video on her LJ. I, of course, love Glee, and had to watch it. However, watching it, I became aware (or, perhaps 'more aware' is a better term) of two things:

1. I am not pleased with the way they are portraying homosexuality in Glee, and

Comments

[mariaklob]

I don't think it's beyond the pale to have an Asian girl who speaks and a black girl who is more than just 'sassy.'

Funny you should mention that. Since "going beyond the pale" originally referred to being a Jew trying to live beyond Russia's dedicated Jew territory, it is going beyond the pale to portray people as people instead of Minority Stereotypes.

Otherwise, I agree with this post. Double-plus to the bit about how gay men aren't synonymous with creepy pedophiles.

[rosinavs]

Funny, when I visited Ireland a tour guide said "beyond the pale" meant going beyond the borders of British-controlled Dublin when the Brits were trying to take over.

[mariaklob]

Further Wikipedia crawling (clearly the most reliable historical source) indicates that this was not an entirely uncommon phenomenon. The British one may be the earliest example.

It's still 'X guy leaving X guy's assigned territory,' which leaves it as a perfect comparison for making a character who breaks stereotypes.

[etherial]

It does literally mean "stepping outside the fence[d enclosure]."

[shadowravyn]

That's how I knew of it: the paling was an enclosure, and thus stepping outside the pale meant going beyond the borders.