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sgmajorshipper

The perception of shipping

Mar 22, 2012 00:20

*For the purpose of this discussion, someone who enjoys any kind of relationship, het, slash, OT3, OT4, whatever, is a shipper, since shipping comes from (relation)shipping, a non-gender-defined term
Also, for this discussion, we'll ignore my reasons/motivation for slashing vs het shippingSo, I was thinking earlier about how people define shipping ( Read more... )

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ohmiya_sg March 22 2012, 05:55:51 UTC

Dean/Impala is canon, hdu.

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lunasky3 March 22 2012, 05:59:39 UTC

Omgomgomg linklinklink pleaz

ohmiya_sg March 22 2012, 06:04:57 UTC

lunasky3 March 22 2012, 06:14:49 UTC

Eeeeeee calling himself Baby gives me feels.... o.O

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lunasky3 March 22 2012, 05:57:21 UTC

Huh. I never really thought of it this way. I call myself a multishipper because I basically read everything, but when it comes down to more obscure pairings, I wouldn't say that I actively ship them? I feel that it has more to do with "couple status" than "nom hot sex" because everyone falls into the last XD

I was actually trying to figure it my definition of an OTP, because as much as I hardcore ship Dean/Cas, Sam and Dean are canon SOULMATES. Does that top an epic romance? Can I call Sam/Dean, in whatever form, a comin OTP because they will be together forever, and Dean/Cas is just a personal one? Idk.

sgmajorshipper March 22 2012, 06:06:01 UTC

True. I classify myself as a multishipper above everything else. I'll read anything, pretty much. I can see anything. I just don't know why I'm that way in SPN, because 99% of the time, regardless of pairing, I don't read for teh pr0nz. And, SPN is the only fandom I slash in.

Exactly! I was thinking of maybe how "canon" I see a pairing being how I ship them, and yet, I consider Sam/Dean and Dean/Cas on similar footing when it comes to canon(i.e. neither is ever going to be out-and-out canon, and yet Sam and Dean ARE soulmates, and Dean and Cas DO have a profound bond and buckets of subtext).
See! Now I've confused everyone else too. Score?

lunasky3 March 22 2012, 06:10:43 UTC

Goddamn meta. *shakes fist and goes back to the pr0nz*. Life is so much simpler without thinking :D. Though it is fun. Just not this late at night... XD

sgmajorshipper March 22 2012, 06:15:35 UTC

LOL. But...meta! I love meta! Meta and me are OTP!!1!!!eleventy1! Seriously, though I totally get you. I've broken my brain over meta before.
It seems like I only produce anything of any quality late at night when I literally cannot think *facepalm*

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pickedoffthird March 22 2012, 05:59:04 UTC

I honestly don't think there is any one answer to this question, though it's an interesting one. Like you might like Sam/Dean fic for the writing or something, but you just don't feel that attachment to the pairing that you do to Dean/Castiel or Sam/Castiel. And why you (not just you personally) get attached to certain pairings but not others... I think it's all about the feels, man. I think sometimes people get so het up about defending their pairings that they don't realize that we're human and we're gonna feel different things and that's okay.

I'm pretty fic-monogamous in SPN, too (lol?), maybe because I got into it soooo late and there's so much D/C to read that I haven't felt the need to seek out pairings I really don't ship. But with baseball fandom, I'll kinda read every fic there is, even about players I really don't like. Maybe because it's so small (and there's one really good author whose favorite players and kinks are... let's just say not mine, but I've read all her stuff anyway and I really appreciated it).

sgmajorshipper March 22 2012, 06:09:37 UTC

True. I know I'm not as attached to Sam/Dean as I am Dean/Cas...and yet I have so many feels re: Sam/Dean and why/when I can see it being legitimately possible and how I feel about it being related to how possible I see it being (i.e. my love for Sam/Dean does equal or exceed my love for Dean/Cas depending on the circumstances of the Sam/Dean).

See, for SPN, I will read almost anything that comes across my browser. Seriously. I read 85-90% of the non-RPF fics that are linked every day in the spnnewsletter. I've read more fic in this fandom than any other, ever. I've read shitty stuff for my favorite pairings and masterpieces for things I'd never considered before. I'm not sure how much that effects why I ship who/what I do and to what degree.

pickedoffthird March 22 2012, 06:22:09 UTC

Exactly! I don't think you can watch SPN without getting bro feels in SOME way.

Ooh thanks for the heads-up on spnnewsletter. I never know where to start looking, so it's been kinda hard to find places for general fic (and I don't mean necessarily gen!fic by that). There is just SO MUCH of EVERYTHING though, haha.

sgmajorshipper March 22 2012, 06:30:23 UTC

spnnewsletter is a great place to get started, to branch out and see new things. I got into reading it when I picked up reccing for crack_impala (another great place to get recs from!), and I've read so much since then. Also, rec_hymenated is fantastic for D/C.

ohmiya_sg March 22 2012, 06:16:55 UTC

I ship everything, provided certain characters aren't involved. Lucifer's the only bad guy I'll ship with anyone, and it's usually in a lulzy, sassy way, tbh. Anyone in the generation before Sam and Dean are out, too. No Gabriel, as much as I love Richard. For RPF, there's not a lot out there that isn't J2, and I live for other permutations of J2M. I ship everyone/everyone in a friendly way because I just love this cast.♥

I actually haven't been reading much fic at all lately. :O I might have overdone it... :x

sgmajorshipper March 22 2012, 06:26:14 UTC

See, I'd expect to have that problem because of ~morals or lack of interest, but I literally ship anything. I love me some Sam/Lucifer or Dean/Lucifer, of the fucked-up variety or not. I ship a little Mary/John, though that maybe stems from me enjoying Amy and Matt together more than anything else (and all three of those? I consider myself a shipper of). I don't have strong feelings for any pairing involving Gabriel, except Team Free Love, because I fucking love OT3s and OT4s in this show.
I didn't mention RPF, because tbh, I don't ship any to a great degree. I'll read any J2 or permutations of J2M. I love everyone with everyone because they make it so easy and happy. So, yeah. Agreed there.

Well...I'm behind. I have a bunch of stuff to read when my schedule clears up lol over summer.

morganlucas41 March 23 2012, 04:13:54 UTC

I just saw your other post, so you might not get this comment for a while, but I really love talking about ships so I couldn't resist ( ... )

sgmajorshipper March 28 2012, 01:56:16 UTC

And it's so much more complicated than "I like them, and I don't like them". It's not just why do you ship, it's why do you ship to this degree, and at what point do you define yourself as someone who ships? It really gets interesting when I look at SPN, which has fundamentally altered how/who/why/what I ship like nothing before or after it.

I do know that I tend more towards canon pairings or those with heavy subtextThis is traditionally me. I've always gone for the canon pairings, regardless of fandom. And yet, SPN. I still ship anything with canon-ish-ness, but I ship ALL THE THINGS, too ( ... )

morganlucas41 March 28 2012, 06:04:35 UTC

Dean/Cas taking over fandom - I've noticed that, too. I feel like it's partly because D/C is new and shiny, and it seems like it would be hard to sustain a ship (S/D) over 7 seasons...without it waning some ( ... )

sgmajorshipper March 28 2012, 06:28:47 UTC

I guess so. Still, I'm not entirely comfortable with it, and it does make me sad. I always get that way with any kind of possibly controlling element.

I find myself platonically shipping a lot these days; enjoying the relationship, but not the explicitness or the romantic designs. It might have to do with the background I have in fangirling ensemble shows, but the gen I'm used to is defined by being an ensemble endeavor, where it tries to tell a story with equal character dev or contributions. I don't mind that kind of story: I enjoy it, on occasion. But I watch shows for characters and their interactions, not fancy plots. I don't read much gen in SPN, but what I have seen often tries to focus just on the plot, which is of no interest to me, or is pre-series, another thing I'm primarily uninterested in. There isn't too much that focuses JUST on the relationships between characters without getting romantic. The kind of gen that does, like the awesome shangrilada's fic, is what I tend to classify as platonic shipping. It's supporting, exploring, ( ... )

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