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Canon vs. Fanon, part 19: Sarcophagus Use

Feb 24, 2009 23:20

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tejas February 25 2009, 00:16:13 UTC

Excellent essay, as usual. ;-)

The way I rationalize Abyss is, if we accept that Jack was, in fact, addicted, then there's no reason why Ba'al couldn't have put him back in for a few more cycles every time he died for the sole purpose of addicting him. On the other hand, he didn't behave as if he'd been addicted. But then, the additional mental trauma could have impacted that, as well. Oh! On the third hand, maybe if you're killed and revived too often in a relatively short period, there's still a level of addiction. Daniel never suffered from addiction from his various deaths (outside of Need) because they were far enough apart to avoid that drawback.

As for Klorel and the 18 hours, perhaps *he* chose to stay in (or go back in) a number of times as a way to better control Skarra. Given that Klorel was already having trouble with Skarra, perhaps the initial healing strengthened Skarra enough to make him even more problematic. Or, maybe, the writers just screwed up. :-)

I kinda wondered if Apophis' oh, so attractive facial decor might not have been implanted on purpose to prevent that portion of his face from healing properly. A not-so-gentle reminder of who's boss.

sg_fignewton February 25 2009, 00:41:17 UTC

Thank you! :)

Regarding your Ba'al theory - that implies that Ba'al himself recognizes what sarc addiction is, and really, why should he? I can't see the Goa'uld conducting experiments on their slaves - they wouldn't want to get their sarcophagi tainted by unnecessary contact with mere humans.

Your Klorel theory is intriguing, although his sheer fury when he gets up suggests he wouldn't have wanted to hang around more than necessary.

Yeah, I can easily see Sokar doing something like that. One wonders what other damage was hidden under Apophis' clothing.

tejas February 25 2009, 00:46:32 UTC

Ba'al and Yu always struck me as the most intellectually curious of the bunch. I can *easily* see Ba'al researching the effects of the sarc on humans and attempting to understand how that would translate to its effect on his host. I'd be willing to bet that Ba'al knows more about the human body and human/Goa'uld interaction than any other Goa'uld. He's the kind I could see attempting to breed a better class of host - body stronger, more resilient, more beautiful and yet with little individuality to make his habitation more pleasant.

As to what else might have been hiding under Apophis' clothing... perhaps it's what *isn't* hiding there any longer. :-)

sg_fignewton February 25 2009, 00:56:31 UTC

::thwaps Tejas::

We keep it PG rated here, thank you!

Interesting theories re Ba'al and Yu and their interest in research. I'd put that kind of ideas more in Nirrti's purview, though. All interesting in creating hoktaur - sarcophagus hot washes would be right up her alley.

tejas February 25 2009, 01:00:13 UTC

Nirrti always struck me as a very sloppy scientist. I could almost see Ba'al laughing at her behind his back.

And hey! That was PG! Not having a belly button any more could be very traumatic for some people. :-)

sg_fignewton February 25 2009, 01:09:00 UTC

::grins:: Okay, you win!

Not on the Nirrti thing though - I think she came way too close to destroying the SGC to consider her sloppy. Typically arrogant, hoo boy yes. But to each their own interpretation!

ETA that I haven't seen the ep where she's killed, so I may be missing some sloppiness there.

tejas February 25 2009, 01:20:16 UTC

Mostly I was thinking that she allowed her arrogance to cause her to leave experimental loose ends and messes behind. Those loose ends and poorly controlled conditions are what killed her. (Or so I remember, it has been a while since I saw that one.)

I can't think of any particular loose ends Ba'al ever left behind.

sg_fignewton February 25 2009, 06:20:42 UTC

No Ba'al doesn't leave messes - he just kills sixty million people when he loses a territorial war. Then again, so did Nirrti.

I'd call multiple clones an insanely loose end, actually. Then again, you clearly like Ba'al, and I pretty much despise him (not the actor, the character) as portrayed in S9-10, which retroactively ruins a lot of my enjoyment of him in earlier seasons. And, as with everything else, like or dislike of a character tends to color how we perceive their behavior.

tejas February 25 2009, 06:35:45 UTC

I didn't care for him in the latter couple of seasons. I consider him a completely different character by that time.

sg_wonderland February 25 2009, 22:37:25 UTC

Personally, I quite liked him in 'The Quest' especially when Sam decked him...

tejas February 25 2009, 22:45:14 UTC

Sam decking him *was* nice. :-) But he'd stopped being chilling and become comic and I vastly preferred chilling.

sg_wonderland February 25 2009, 23:33:52 UTC

Yes, I have to agree, he wasn't quite as scary, scary.

sg_betty February 25 2009, 01:48:38 UTC

I kinda wondered if Apophis' oh, so attractive facial decor might not have been implanted on purpose to prevent that portion of his face from healing properly. A not-so-gentle reminder of who's boss.
Ewww. Yeah, that makes sense. So why doesn't he remove it to heal? To painful? Too focused on revenge? Maybe just too busy. ;)

tejas February 25 2009, 01:49:42 UTC

Too busy, not the right resources at hand.

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