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Nov 08, 2009 07:04

I've been thinking about this whole "interactive storytelling" thing TV's trying these days, and the difference, for some shows, between what it says on the label and what's actually in the can. ( Behind the cut-tag: Heroes, Castle, and Supernatural, discussed in a context that's only tangentially related to Marshall McLuhan. (NO WAIT DON'T--okay, I probably shouldn't have mentioned him, I see that now.) No spoilers for unaired episodes. )

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mecurtin November 8 2009, 16:57:58 UTC
Verra interesting. I don't know much about Castle, so I hope to see people here explicate ( ... )

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cereta November 8 2009, 23:39:59 UTC
I think given the very heavy emphasis on characters and relationships in Castle (not to mention that while it's a bit of a police procedural, it falls more squarely in the "amateur crime solver" genre), they seem pretty content with the female demographic. Even the odd sexing up of the female lead seems to be done more tongue-in-cheek - that is, it's almost a jab at Castle himself when it happens, as much as it is pandering to a male audience.

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serrico November 9 2009, 01:30:15 UTC
Well, if I can go ahead and make an assumption based on damned dirty sexist stereotypes: Heroes' fanboys may get a kick out of the *technological* aspects of its interactive elements more than its fangirls might. And just as TV marketing tends to be focused on the male 18-39 demographic, so are technological doodads. So to put more of an emphasis on the gadgets and applications and games than on the content of the show itself *might* make sense to TPTB in charge of getting those all-important demographic numbers--but that sort of thing will detract from the show itself, as a commodity in its own right.

FBL interest is more likely to be on teasing out the world-building, wanting to know more about how the show/world is put together; FGL interest is more about teasing out the people-building, wanting to know more about the characters.Way back in the first season, the show's creator (who supposedly wasn't into comics or genre fiction before he did the show) said that his original intention for the series was to start each season ( ... )

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baka_kit November 9 2009, 04:37:07 UTC
(observe: "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" is the *opposite* of Buffy's premise; "Heroes" assumes you do not identify with the cheerleader, she is not the agent of interest.)

I'd been wondering for a long time why Heroes felt so different, why it sort of slid out of my brain rather than engaging the fannish mechanisms. I think this is it, exactly.

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Metafandomer ahoy! anya_elizabeth November 10 2009, 05:37:49 UTC
I think FanBoyLand doesn't care for shameless marketing any more than FanGirlLand does, based on my very representative sample of one (my boyfriend). Extrapolating from my experiences with this sample and his friends, FBL interest does indeed seem to be more about world building, but I also think a strong plot is important. For my 'sample' at least, there doesn't necessarily have to be terribly consistent character development in FBL as long as there is a strong flow of events leading to a logical and exciting conclusion. Obviously I, a fangirl, dig that too, but I can't help thinking that I wouldn't mind if we just had the Claire/Gretchen storyline at the moment, even though there is no indication currently that it's going to be relevant to anything. I hope it does play a part in the main story, otherwise it's a pretty shameless choice of hot lesbian subplot, but I find I am digging it as-is for the moment. Mostly because after a long period of annoyingness, Claire is relatable and likeable again. Sometimes I think this might have ( ... )

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