navel-gazing, writerly speaking

Apr 24, 2005 22:35

I cut twenty-seven pages from Landscape five minutes ago ( Read more... )

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thecaelum April 25 2005, 04:26:17 UTC
*hands you a cookie* I'm not that brave, for the record.

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seperis April 25 2005, 04:39:27 UTC
I don't know if it's bravery. Freakoutedness, maybe.

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rivkat April 25 2005, 04:35:22 UTC
And another cookie, just because.

I still want to know where that story is going, dammit.

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seperis April 25 2005, 04:41:53 UTC
You and me both. I have a really bad feeling that how I think it ends won't be how it actually ends. Which will suck.

I will never finish this story. Seriously. It will be my albatross, following me around forever, mocking me as I sit in Part IV, staring at it, willing it to *work*. Or God help me, part v. Or my favorite nightmare, five pages from the end or something.

And worst part? Lex got to *shoot people* in this part. And I have to cut it, and I am a fan of Lex embracing violence, dammit.

*munches cookie disconsolately*

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out_there April 25 2005, 04:54:38 UTC
*gives you a cookie* You deserve it.

I'm one of those 'once it's written, it should damn well stay' writers too, so I get your pain. Normally, I need to delete end paragraphs or add them, but since my endings are always dodgy, I don't mind that.

But I currently have a long fic in beta and I keep having these weird moments of almost-panic, wondering if it's going to come back from the beta with great big slashes in metaphorical-red-pen saying that this scene and that scene and this other one need to be deleted because they achieve nothing.

So, yes. You've just deleted a chunk. You deserve many cookies.

And going back to the beginning and reading, I can see the pattern early on in it going this way, and it's--does that sound some kind of really weird psychotic break?I'm currently doing a Creative Writing class at uni/college, and there's this whole idea about *themes* of writing which goes over my head. I'm writing because the characters talk to me, they tell me about one little thing and... it's like finding a twisted ball of ( ... )

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j_bluestocking April 25 2005, 05:30:16 UTC
The theme will often announce itself to the writer three-quarters of the way through the work, and then you can say, "Oh, how nice that this all fits together!" Personally, I almost never begin with a theme in mind. People do their creative work differently, and anything that tries to make one size fit all is doomed to failure, I think.

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seperis April 26 2005, 04:31:29 UTC
But, apparently, we're supposed to keep the *themes* of our piece in mind as we write. We're supposed to have this level of self-awareness that I clearly lack -- that I always have, because just because I see the themes in a story when it's finished, doesn't mean I had a clue they were there as I wrote -- but I find that stoppig to think about the themes just makes the words dry up. It stops me from writing.

That's the reason I hated and still hate lit and English classes *so much*. But then, I hated the entire cutting of a story into it's seven component parts,too--what was it, theme, mood, setting, characterization, tone, dialogue, and something else. It just--noo. I'd sit and think, it's a *story*. Not a mathematical equation.

(Mind you, the other frightening thing mentioned in this course? The idea that a lot of good writers write down a novel, delete nine tenths of it, and then start again and re-write the entire thing. I think that would be too painful to bear.)*thoughtful* I wonder how *literal* they're being when that's ( ... )

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out_there April 26 2005, 04:43:24 UTC
What's the point of writing it if you're never going to actually use any of it?

Apparently, it's to clarify the characters and backstory in your mind. It's...

Well, when you're writing original fiction, I think it's taking the place of canon. Like, when you write a good fic, there's all this backstory of canon that you know about the characters (but you don't go through and summarise it all in the story -- because that would make it clunky and boring -- but you write as if it's a known thing). So, for original writing, the theory is that you don't need to spell everything out but as the author, you should *know* those bits of character history.

It's sort of... I don't know. If I think about it rationally, it probably leads to good writing, but it *feels* all pointless.

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suzvoy April 25 2005, 05:18:41 UTC
You get a whole bag of cookies!

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seperis April 26 2005, 04:32:57 UTC
Mmm. Cookies.

*munches and hugs you*

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j_bluestocking April 25 2005, 05:31:06 UTC
I embrace you, soldier! Those cookies are well-deserved.

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seperis April 26 2005, 04:33:51 UTC
*bows* Thank you.

*wrinkles forehead* I dont have to like, print and burn it ritually now, do I? Cause I am totally not up for that bit at all.

*stares at word, resisting urge to open it*

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