disturbing thoughts on ethan

Mar 21, 2004 03:27

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raveninthewind March 21 2004, 07:25:05 UTC
The way the Cowlip demonized Ethan just pissed me off. I liked S2 Ethan a lot better than Justin or Brian, and I was hoping for a meaingful end to the E/J relationship. I didn't see it as the love of either of their lives, but I thought it made psychological sense for two young creative people to be together.

However, I think Justin did use Ethan in that way that young, immature people sometimes unintentionally do hurt others. You know, kinda the way Brian hurt Justin. Not evil, just self-involved. At some point I figured B/J just deserve each other, drama and all.

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seperis March 21 2004, 11:04:39 UTC
However, I think Justin did use Ethan in that way that young, immature people sometimes unintentionally do hurt others.

Yep, he did, and pretty cold-bloodedly at first. I'm not even sure Justin ever saw *Ethan*, just saw the fantasy-boyfriend, the polar opposite of Brian in some ways. But I do tend toward thinking it was more intentional than not--he spent too much time balancing between the two, hiding Ethan from Brian, to not be aware of exactly what kind of game he was playing.

What sometimes actually *scares* me is how long he could have kept that up if Brian hadn't found out, because I think if Brian hadn't, then Justin would have played this as long as he could get away with it.

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mi_nion March 22 2004, 16:39:35 UTC
What sometimes actually *scares* me is how long he could have kept that up if Brian hadn't found out, because I think if Brian hadn't, then Justin would have played this as long as he could get away with it.
Of course he would, part of the "fantasy boyfriend" is that he be a secret lover. That was part of the lure.

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mi_nion March 22 2004, 16:37:39 UTC
ITA season 2 Ethan was a dfifferent person than season 3 Ethan. The J/E breakup was unsatisfying on one hand, but on the other hand quite welcome, because by the time they broke up it was hard to like season E. I kept thinking okay break up already, I'm done with you.

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raveninthewind March 23 2004, 08:22:42 UTC
This won't make me popular, but I have to say I've had more reasons not to like Justin over the past three seasons than I did to hate Ethan for S3. I couldn't take S3 Ethan at face value. S3 just seemed like CowLip was trying to milk the last of Fab's appearances on the show for maximum drama.

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mi_nion March 23 2004, 11:27:47 UTC
S3 just seemed like Cowlip was trying to milk the last of Fab's appearances on the show for maximum drama.

I have that same issue alot of times with Cowlip. When do you hate the character as opposed to when it is just bad writing or plot development.

Here's an even more no doubt unpopular thought; Mikey. I get that he's supposed to be jealous of Justin. I get that he has a neverending crush on Brian. I understand he's supposed to be blue-collar, not polished. I really do understand that he is at times very unlikeable because of all that. But I think Cowslip crossed the line with Mikey in 301. Because after seeing Brian at the hospital when Justin was bashed & seeing Brian drugged out in denial in 201, how on earth could he even at his most angry ever wish Justin dead? if my so called best friend said that about someone I once cared for or loved, I seriously doubt I could ever forgive him.

As far as B/J/E I think there's enough blame there to go around.

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