Sorry, had to use the quote because of its appropriateness. Bonus points if you recognize it; it's not from the three fandoms I'm going to talk about
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Ah, see, I'd either never known or forgotten that Nathaniel cheated on Ruth (although it doesn't come as a surprise).
but I doubt SFU fandom loved Ruth the way Veronica Mars fandom loved Logan.
Without having ever been in SFU fandom I'd be willing to guarantee that you are right. :)
I mean, personally, I never caught the Logan fever
In all fairness, I'm not particularly neutral on the boy - I hated him purely because of his more rabid fans, who in some cases clearly thought he was Spike by another name, with poor Veronica substituting for Buffy. Looking back from a more neutral position, I'd say that he's a somewhat interesting, deeply flawed character who would have made a great wingman for Duncan as the really messed up broken golden boy, had they chosen to go into that direction. I always found him too obnoxious to be actually sympathetic, although his backstory explained a lot of that.
Lilly herself was very popular, but I think she had quite a few detractors after it turned out what she had done, yes. Still, her role as Veronica's best friend was very important for a lot of people, and her she didn't betray, so that played a big role in her perception. Or so I'm willing to believe in the golden glow of looking back nostalgically. ;)
Nate finds out re: Nathaniel in the first season, but it's rarely brought up again, and narratively not as important as Ruth's guilt about her own extramarital affair.
I hated him purely because of his more rabid fans, who in some cases clearly thought he was Spike by another name, with poor Veronica substituting for Buffy.
Speaking as an outsider of VM fandom, I had that impression myself. I.e. disgruntled Spike/Buffy shippers who didn't get what they wanted with one pairing adopting Logan/Veronica and then being doubly frustrated they didn't get the story they wanted there, either. With Duncan getting Riley and Angel hate from the same faction combined. :) My own impression was that Logan-Duncan-Veronica was sort of interesting because it fulfillled my criterium for not irritating triangle (i.e. all three parties must be invested in each other, not just A and B in rivalry for C; Logan and Duncan had their own relationship), Logan/Veronica less so, and it already felt artificially prolonged by the end of s2, so I'm really not surprised to hear they ended it in s3 (or that fandom was furious about this). In any case, I wish the whole shippy aspect hadn't become so important in s2, and the emphasis had remained more on Veronica as detective. And to return to Logan, he's just another instance of that problem I have when most of fandom is invested in a character and/or relationship which just doesn't fascinate me as much or completely leaves me cold, which automatically means 95% of fanfic and meta is not for me.
Still, her role as Veronica's best friend was very important for a lot of people, and her she didn't betray, so that played a big role in her perception.
This is good to hear, and let me tell you, I really liked that the last scene with Lilly and Veronica we saw, the imaginary sunbathing, was a harmonious one.
but I doubt SFU fandom loved Ruth the way Veronica Mars fandom loved Logan.
Without having ever been in SFU fandom I'd be willing to guarantee that you are right. :)
I mean, personally, I never caught the Logan fever
In all fairness, I'm not particularly neutral on the boy - I hated him purely because of his more rabid fans, who in some cases clearly thought he was Spike by another name, with poor Veronica substituting for Buffy. Looking back from a more neutral position, I'd say that he's a somewhat interesting, deeply flawed character who would have made a great wingman for Duncan as the really messed up broken golden boy, had they chosen to go into that direction. I always found him too obnoxious to be actually sympathetic, although his backstory explained a lot of that.
Lilly herself was very popular, but I think she had quite a few detractors after it turned out what she had done, yes. Still, her role as Veronica's best friend was very important for a lot of people, and her she didn't betray, so that played a big role in her perception. Or so I'm willing to believe in the golden glow of looking back nostalgically. ;)
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I hated him purely because of his more rabid fans, who in some cases clearly thought he was Spike by another name, with poor Veronica substituting for Buffy.
Speaking as an outsider of VM fandom, I had that impression myself. I.e. disgruntled Spike/Buffy shippers who didn't get what they wanted with one pairing adopting Logan/Veronica and then being doubly frustrated they didn't get the story they wanted there, either. With Duncan getting Riley and Angel hate from the same faction combined. :) My own impression was that Logan-Duncan-Veronica was sort of interesting because it fulfillled my criterium for not irritating triangle (i.e. all three parties must be invested in each other, not just A and B in rivalry for C; Logan and Duncan had their own relationship), Logan/Veronica less so, and it already felt artificially prolonged by the end of s2, so I'm really not surprised to hear they ended it in s3 (or that fandom was furious about this). In any case, I wish the whole shippy aspect hadn't become so important in s2, and the emphasis had remained more on Veronica as detective. And to return to Logan, he's just another instance of that problem I have when most of fandom is invested in a character and/or relationship which just doesn't fascinate me as much or completely leaves me cold, which automatically means 95% of fanfic and meta is not for me.
Still, her role as Veronica's best friend was very important for a lot of people, and her she didn't betray, so that played a big role in her perception.
This is good to hear, and let me tell you, I really liked that the last scene with Lilly and Veronica we saw, the imaginary sunbathing, was a harmonious one.
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