Vid recs, and writer-fan encounters of the classic type

[selenak]

Firstly, more vid recs:

Terminator movies/ Sarah Connor Chronicles:

Land: this one is epic, using the multiple timelines premise from the show and the time loop premise from the movies to fantastic effect, matching footage from both. Sarah, John, the time loop of John's existence, and all the possibilities.

Star Trek:

Swing: this vid is

Comments

[honorh]

Madame de Stael: I think German verse feels clumsy.
Goethe: I think French verse feels like tapeworm.

*sporfle!* I also know little of Goethe and Schiller except that C.S. Lewis seems to think Werther was a whiny drama queen, and I, too, found this hilarious. Sounds like Madame was the kind of fan we all know and detest.

[selenak]

Werther was a drama queen, but then, so was everyone in the the era, in and out of fiction. Goethe's own attitude towards his first novel and its hero was somewhat like Arthur Conan Doyle's to Sherlock Holmes: it made him popular and was his big bestselling breakthrough as a young man, but became something of a millstone around his neck later because for a few decades more, instead of being associated with the works we now associate with him, he was "the author of Werther" and was asked about the novel. Madame de Stael bringing it up twenty years after the novel was published being a case in point. So did Napoleon, whose encounter with Goethe (a few years post-de Stael) was as much an example of period fanboy-ness as anything and will remind you of Nine and Dickens. A bit of background: a few years after the first publication, Goethe revised The Sorrows of Young Werther in that while the original solely consists of Werther's letters to his friend Wilhelm and one final remark by a narrator, the revised version has several narrative

Han totally shot first.

[shezan]

*DIES*

You just know Napoleon would have been an OT purist

[selenak]

I hoped you might appreciate my summing up of that encounter. :)

More about Werther

[selenak]

As for The Sorrows of Young Werther, I'm pretty sure Lewis never read it but knew Thackeray's witty poem, as well as Massenet's opera which is quite different. The novel, published in the 1770s, and as I said in the style of the period mostly consisting of letters, goes something like this

Re: More about Werther

[fallingtowers]

I adore this poem and wish I had known about it back in Kollegstufe.

*has issues with Goethe*

*still thinks that Werther is a whiny little drama queen*

Re: More about Werther

[selenak]

Oh, I don't think Mr. "Doch was fördert es mich, dass auch sogar der Chinese/ malt, mit ängstlicher Hand, Werther und Lotten aufs Glas" would have minded, au contraire, he'd have been amused as hell.

*has a soft spot for old JWG*