How can you be so ignorant of your own village's history?
You Konoha ninja . . .
You fail to understand your village's past.
You fail to acknowledge the truth.
You walk around like ignorant sheep and cattle, chewing the cuds of the present and grazing in comfort, without a thought in your heads about what your own people are responsible for!
And when you are so ignorant of politics and history, one does not expect you can be trusted over anything else.
Ridiculous, then, that your people saw fit to lecture me when you do not even possess a comprehension of your own culture!
The blood of the slaughtered deserves better than your village's continued indifference and stupidity.
You insult your own -- and all those who died so you lot could have your treasured prosperity.
Best consult your history and your conscience before you engage in another discussion of foreign policy.
Such ignorance disgusts me. Are you a man or are you sheep, bleating stupidly?
[Private to Pain]smiling_uminoNovember 2 2009, 19:28:59 UTC
[So. It's been eating at him. This is not helping matters either.]
To acknowledge truth coming from a wanted traitor? What reason and logic should me and my people believe in when this is coming from the very person who left his village and committed genocide? I do know our history and I do know that Konoha does not stand for such utter nonsense.
Ignorant?
Please.
The blood that has been spilt is from the hands of a man who has been severely misinformed. Child or not, there is very little sense in that reasoning. Konoha has earned her prosperity like any other country would. At war or not. But this is not war, we aren't in one. Uchiha is of our own for goodness sakes. They are a part of us. To eradicate them without reason and based on an order is just ...
[He can't even think of a word, too stunned, other than - ]
Impossible.
Kindly measure your words, please.
[There is no lie in his words. He wouldn't lie about something like this.]
Re: [Private to Pain]smiling_uminoNovember 2 2009, 20:18:44 UTC
Dreams are as much as a blessing as they are a curse. Yes, I have seen these dreams. But you know as well as I do that dreams aren't real. Who is to say that the guilt stems from such a thing? Dreams aren't hard facts, they're a byproduct of our thoughts and emotions, a cocktail of everything. It is hard to to find truth in dreams, but I do not deny the guilt.
I also do not deny what I have seen years ago before the death of his clan. That is one truth I cannot turn a blind eye to.
But you speak of this guilt like it's something else. There is no knowledge about this order to execute an entire clan so blindly. He killed his people. His family. You ask why he is wracked by guilt? Any sane person would be!
We are in a place where things aren't natural.
We are in a place where it is easy to craft reality and a lie. You know this. You've been through it yourself. With a student of mine even! So what is truth now? When the past can be created so easily and from nothing. Who is to say that your knowledge isn't false?
I intend to ask. Make no mistake of that.
But ...
I am certain that there is a proper explanation for all this ...
[His tone. It wanes. Just a little bit. It is very unsettling to question your entire purpose and beliefs.]
How --
How can you be so ignorant of your own village's history?
You Konoha ninja . . .
You fail to understand your village's past.
You fail to acknowledge the truth.
You walk around like ignorant sheep and cattle, chewing the cuds of the present and grazing in comfort, without a thought in your heads about what your own people are responsible for!
And when you are so ignorant of politics and history, one does not expect you can be trusted over anything else.
Ridiculous, then, that your people saw fit to lecture me when you do not even possess a comprehension of your own culture!
The blood of the slaughtered deserves better than your village's continued indifference and stupidity.
You insult your own -- and all those who died so you lot could have your treasured prosperity.
Best consult your history and your conscience before you engage in another discussion of foreign policy.
Such ignorance disgusts me. Are you a man or are you sheep, bleating stupidly?
Educate yourself.
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To acknowledge truth coming from a wanted traitor? What reason and logic should me and my people believe in when this is coming from the very person who left his village and committed genocide? I do know our history and I do know that Konoha does not stand for such utter nonsense.
Ignorant?
Please.
The blood that has been spilt is from the hands of a man who has been severely misinformed. Child or not, there is very little sense in that reasoning. Konoha has earned her prosperity like any other country would. At war or not. But this is not war, we aren't in one. Uchiha is of our own for goodness sakes. They are a part of us. To eradicate them without reason and based on an order is just ...
[He can't even think of a word, too stunned, other than - ]
Impossible.
Kindly measure your words, please.
[There is no lie in his words. He wouldn't lie about something like this.]
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Have you not been watching this man's dreams? If you have, you must have some understanding of how his mind works.
Therefore, let me ask you.
Why would a man born during war, who has seen the horrors of war and would be so inclined to loathe it --
-- who obviously loves his brother and would do anything for him --
Why would such a man destroy everything and render himself a missing-nin?
And why do his dreams reveal a soul which is wracked by guilt?
If you condemn others for their sins without asking hard questions, you will damn yourself to ignorance for eternity.
But if you ask those questions, you might not like the answers.
I suppose it is easier to condemn the criminal than to acknowledge the droplets of blood lining your own safe havens.
You seek a black and white world; you extinguish the candles and the moonlight and focus all on the sun.
For you think your village has no life when the night comes.
But I know the truth.
Look more closely.
Ask your village leadership.
Ask Uzumaki Naruto, too. He lived with Itachi, and with me.
And keep asking.
When you begin to see the discomfort in their eyes, you will know you're nearing the answer to your grand mystery.
When eyes are relaxed around the edges, humans learn nothing.
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I also do not deny what I have seen years ago before the death of his clan. That is one truth I cannot turn a blind eye to.
But you speak of this guilt like it's something else. There is no knowledge about this order to execute an entire clan so blindly. He killed his people. His family. You ask why he is wracked by guilt? Any sane person would be!
We are in a place where things aren't natural.
We are in a place where it is easy to craft reality and a lie. You know this. You've been through it yourself. With a student of mine even! So what is truth now? When the past can be created so easily and from nothing. Who is to say that your knowledge isn't false?
I intend to ask. Make no mistake of that.
But ...
I am certain that there is a proper explanation for all this ...
[His tone. It wanes. Just a little bit. It is very unsettling to question your entire purpose and beliefs.]
... Konoha would not do this.
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