Please enlighten me?

Jul 18, 2008 22:35

QaF folks, I have a question. It's about episode 308, the first scene in Brian's office, when Brian is all "I don't want to see your face every day when I come in to work because I totally still love you" and Justin is all eyelash-batting, "I had no idea our former relationship was still a problem for you" innocence.

Clip is here if anyone would like a refresher ;-) )

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justinlovesart July 19 2008, 03:15:01 UTC
OR, is he saying he wanted to be considered special to Brian but never actually expected to get that?

This.

It's confirmed by the final dialogue: "I now know what to expect from you", which I've always interpreted as: "I still would like to be considered special...but I now know that there's a difference between what I want and what I can expect."

I'll stop here, ok? Because 308 makes me very, very sad and I really need to find a way to deal with it.

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hpuckle July 19 2008, 14:00:13 UTC
I think I'll go with this too. The "I now know what to expect from you" suggests that Justin has realised he's probably never going to get exactly what he wants from Brian.

xxx

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secretsolitaire July 19 2008, 17:36:15 UTC
The "I now know what to expect from you" suggests that Justin has realised he's probably never going to get exactly what he wants from Brian.

I definitely agree with this. I'm still not so sure about the earlier line though. I mean, I can buy that Justin doesn't expect anything special now, but that he "never did"? Not even in S1 when he was so confident that he could make Brian love him through sheer persistence? I think at least in S1 he went behind just wanting into expecting, so I still don't buy the idea that Justin never expected anything of Brian. But perhaps I am being too literal. ;-)

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hpuckle July 19 2008, 17:45:25 UTC
Shit, sorry. I'm stupid. I misread exactly what gmta_nz had copied.

I agree completely with what you said. I've struggled with that line before too, but I just didn't look into it too much!

I don't know for sure exactly what he meant by it. I think I'd be most likely to lean towards - He never expected anything particularly special from Brian, just a little everyday affection and love and respect?

xxx

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secretsolitaire July 19 2008, 20:28:39 UTC
I've struggled with that line before too, but I just didn't look into it too much!

LOL, I have spent several hours today reading and answering comments about a three-word line. I think maybe I should stop looking into it this much! ;-)

I am still on the fence as to whether Justin was serious with this line or not. If he was serious, then I agree with that statement you quoted. But the more I watch it, the more I see a little smirk and a twinkle in his eye after he says that line, and I wonder whether some of the other commenters are right -- that he's humorously alluding to the fact that he sure as hell has expected more from Brian, and often Brian does give it to him (just not exactly in the way Justin would like it).

*continues to ponder*

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secretsolitaire July 19 2008, 17:33:12 UTC
I know this ep is a sore spot for you. Sorry! :-/

I think your reading is definitely a legitimate one, but the problem I have is that if he's saying this line seriously, I just don't believe it. I mean, I can buy the interpretation that he currently doesn't expect anything, but I just don't see that he never expected anything. He was certainly quite disillusioned in S2, but in S1 at least I always have the feeling that he wants certain things from Brian and he has confidence that if he tries hard enough and does/says the right things that Brian will give them to him. In other words, I think there's a certain level of not just desire but also expectation. Over time I think these expectations faded, but I really don't think it's true that Justin never expected anything from Brian, and that's why I always trip over this particular line! Maybe I'm just being too literal. But every time I hear it, I mentally think "BULL ( ... )

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