Is Stuart Campbell on a mission to lose followers?
Andy Ellis says:
15 December, 2020 at 11:38 am
@Rev Stu
So as of 11.30-ish @ 136 comments on this thread, 21/136 are from Spameron Brodie. Nary a one is apposite to the subject of the thread and several just abusing those asking him to desist. 15% of all comments from 1 disruptive individual. 18/136 comments from various posters asking him to stop, or making fun of his pretensions.
28% of the discussion derailed by one obsessional individual you appear unable or unwilling to control.
Is it any wonder many former regular posters get fed up with this? We’re honestly all struggling to figure out why you give this individual such latitude? If it was some yoon crank would you honestly have hesitated to ban him?
Doubtless you are sick of us complaining and biting back. I’ve had enough now. As I said in direct mail to you, the game isn’t worth the candle any more. What should be a great resource and vibrant forum for folk diverted by one monomaniacal individual with a wee want about him.
I wish all reasonable posters well, and will still drop in to scroll past Spameron’s inevitable mass pasting, but in terms of being involved BTL, I’ve had enough.
CameronB Brodie says:
15 December, 2020 at 12:30 pm
Ron Maclean
I’m morally obliged to do this, though I’d rather not have to. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be so noisy if I wasn’t having to defend my position quite so much.
Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
15 December, 2020 at 1:38 pm
“I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be so noisy if I wasn’t having to defend my position quite so much.”
You don’t have to. There’s no need whatsoever for you to burst into an abusive rant every time someone questions the relevance of one of your links. You can just ignore them, same as they can just ignore your comments and move on. This is the absolutely last time I’m going to warn everyone. Next time EVERYONE is in the bin.
I’ve bent over backwards not to just ban you for a quiet life, which is what nearly everyone seems to want, because I don’t believe in letting a mob hound someone until they get censored into silence. But don’t push it by reacting so violently.
So for the avoidance of doubt: from now on, ANYONE responding abusively to anyone else’s comments goes into pre-moderation. No more warnings, no more chances. This is not a democracy. If you don’t like what someone’s commented, you have three choices: ignore it and get on with your day, express your view civilly, or get the hammer.
I too am sick of scrolling past Cameron Brodie's endless impenetrable and irrelevant comments on Wings Over Scotland. They are, at best, of no interest to most followers of WOS, and at worst, annoying and off-putting to the point that people are going to stop reading the blog. I am sure most people are reluctant to complain or become involved in ad hominem arguments, but when they do, Stuart Campbell refuses to either take sides or take action against the source of the problem. Surely there is no equivalence between someone who is disrupting the site with multitudes of spam comments, and those who are complaining about the serial spammer and demanding that action be taken?
Stuart Campbell is an excellent journalist and is, or should be, a huge asset to the pro-independence movement. However, his tolerance or intolerance towards commenters can be hard to understand. He blocked me from his Facebook page some years ago merely for disagreeing with his stance on 'both votes SNP', which he favoured at the time. I was not rude or insulting, but merely pointed out why I thought that he was wrong. Yet he now favours voting for parties other than the SNP in the list vote. Clearly he is not infallible, but he would rather block people than apologise and admit he was wrong.
I am not at all impressed.
15 December, 2020 at 11:38 am
@Rev Stu
So as of 11.30-ish @ 136 comments on this thread, 21/136 are from Spameron Brodie. Nary a one is apposite to the subject of the thread and several just abusing those asking him to desist. 15% of all comments from 1 disruptive individual. 18/136 comments from various posters asking him to stop, or making fun of his pretensions.
28% of the discussion derailed by one obsessional individual you appear unable or unwilling to control.
Is it any wonder many former regular posters get fed up with this? We’re honestly all struggling to figure out why you give this individual such latitude? If it was some yoon crank would you honestly have hesitated to ban him?
Doubtless you are sick of us complaining and biting back. I’ve had enough now. As I said in direct mail to you, the game isn’t worth the candle any more. What should be a great resource and vibrant forum for folk diverted by one monomaniacal individual with a wee want about him.
I wish all reasonable posters well, and will still drop in to scroll past Spameron’s inevitable mass pasting, but in terms of being involved BTL, I’ve had enough.
CameronB Brodie says:
15 December, 2020 at 12:30 pm
Ron Maclean
I’m morally obliged to do this, though I’d rather not have to. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be so noisy if I wasn’t having to defend my position quite so much.
Rev. Stuart Campbell says:
15 December, 2020 at 1:38 pm
“I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be so noisy if I wasn’t having to defend my position quite so much.”
You don’t have to. There’s no need whatsoever for you to burst into an abusive rant every time someone questions the relevance of one of your links. You can just ignore them, same as they can just ignore your comments and move on. This is the absolutely last time I’m going to warn everyone. Next time EVERYONE is in the bin.
I’ve bent over backwards not to just ban you for a quiet life, which is what nearly everyone seems to want, because I don’t believe in letting a mob hound someone until they get censored into silence. But don’t push it by reacting so violently.
So for the avoidance of doubt: from now on, ANYONE responding abusively to anyone else’s comments goes into pre-moderation. No more warnings, no more chances. This is not a democracy. If you don’t like what someone’s commented, you have three choices: ignore it and get on with your day, express your view civilly, or get the hammer.
I too am sick of scrolling past Cameron Brodie's endless impenetrable and irrelevant comments on Wings Over Scotland. They are, at best, of no interest to most followers of WOS, and at worst, annoying and off-putting to the point that people are going to stop reading the blog. I am sure most people are reluctant to complain or become involved in ad hominem arguments, but when they do, Stuart Campbell refuses to either take sides or take action against the source of the problem. Surely there is no equivalence between someone who is disrupting the site with multitudes of spam comments, and those who are complaining about the serial spammer and demanding that action be taken?
Stuart Campbell is an excellent journalist and is, or should be, a huge asset to the pro-independence movement. However, his tolerance or intolerance towards commenters can be hard to understand. He blocked me from his Facebook page some years ago merely for disagreeing with his stance on 'both votes SNP', which he favoured at the time. I was not rude or insulting, but merely pointed out why I thought that he was wrong. Yet he now favours voting for parties other than the SNP in the list vote. Clearly he is not infallible, but he would rather block people than apologise and admit he was wrong.
I am not at all impressed.