036. the mother we share

[scorpiod1]

December 18th: What draws you to incest ships for streussal

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streussal, why do you do this to me

I honestly don't know how to explain this but I am going to TRY to explain.

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Re: i had to break this into 2 because i talk too much

[streussal]

SIDENOTE: One of the reasons that Flowers in the Attic works for me and most of the ghost-written VC Andrews books do not, is because FiTA really commits to the incest. A lot of the later ones have "oh we didn't know we were related I guess we can't be together" or "damn I was always attracted to my sibling HEY COOL WE'RE NOT RELATED LET'S BANG" (which is even weirder to me). Whereas Cathy and Chris were always aware they were siblings and it's weird and fucked up. (And honestly Chris is kind of a shitty love interest, but way less terrible than her other ones.) And later it turns out that their parents were not just half-uncle and niece but HALF SIBLINGS so Cathy and Chris are super related looool.

(The VC Andrews protagonists actually written by VC Andrews are also allowed to become bitter as a result of their experiences, which is much more satisfying to read.)

Taking an incest ship and trying to make it more palpable or less wrong kills part of the appeal for me?

same!

Chuck/Herc in Pacific Rim -- I am so confused by the way that ship gets written. Again, not my thing, but just from what I've read out of curiosity... People also do that with Raleigh/his brother fic, which is irritating, but not as baffling as with a parent/child ship jfc.

semi-related to this post: There are actually fandoms I have where I occasionally go "man I could probably get Scorp and Heather to consider this if I talked about all the incest".

RE: Re: i had to break this into 2 because i talk too much

[scorpiod1]

Did VC Andrews write the FiTA sequels? I kinda wanna read it, but I heard Chris rapes Cathy, which is really deterring me (and something I'm glad the film fixed), but I'm also interested in the sequels when they're an established thing? LOL I was unaware VC Andrews had more incest books under her name, even if they never quite went full incest. The ghost writers were weaaaaaak.

damn I was always attracted to my sibling HEY COOL WE'RE NOT RELATED LET'S BANG

oh god I always find that SO WEIRD. I think Arrested Development did that but for laughs over how ridiculous it was. Otherwise, it's just ??? If you were attracted to your sibling, finding out you're not blood related is not like...A FREE PASS???

I get so baffled by Chuck/Herc because like, if I stop to think about it, I really do see WHY people would be into it? They're in each other's brains and then there's ghost drifting and I can just see that laying the groundwork some really fucked up, twisted dark parent/child fic there. BUT THAT IS NOT THE FIC. AT ALL!!! Why do I read things to understand them and end up hating them, I have no clue. Like I've seen people use the neural handshake, drift compabile-ness as a reason to ship Raleigh/Yancy (which I do like, is anyone surprised; even if they also pull the CASUAL FUN INCEST thing with them, I've read some fic that added some angst to it and grounded it somewhat? But it's hard to find) but I've never seen anyone be so CASUAL about a parent/child ship so i am just ??? at that part of fandom.

YO YOU SHOULD TELL ME WHICH FANDOMS

BECAUSE INCEST IS LEGIT THE NUMBER ONE WAY TO SELL ME SOMETHING

The other way is ships that kill people together (this is legit how Heather sold Sons of Anarchy on me)