My Two Cents or Why Glee Should Not Ship Karofsky/Kurt After Last Week's Ep

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shamanonramen.com/2010/11/david-the-gleeliath/

Read the article first about last week's ep. It's very good and I completely agree with everything he says *until* the end.

I think a Kurt/David relationship needs to happen. Blaine, Kurt’s gaydian angel, is so incredibly Kurtesque that their relationship would essentially be masturbation. Kurt/

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Re: Forgiveness

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Thanks for your comment! I should have been more clear about my position, I apologize. I did not mean to equate rape and the physical abuse Kurt has suffered on the show. I used it as an example of a type of thinking. Specifically, the idea that love conquers all--including physical abuse and/or rape.

Also, I would argue that Kurt is already a victim. He's finally stood up to Dave and has begun to stop being a victim, but up until last week's episode he was very much a victim of bullying and physical assault. I mean, this wasn't the taunts and teasing and verbal abuse that Quinn subjected Rachel to (though that was also horrible), Karofsky was actually physically assaulting Kurt. Daily. But it can stop. Though, if the end of the ep is anything to go by, that is not going to be any time soon.

I agree with you about Kurt and Blaine reaching out. They did and that makes them much bigger young men than a lot of their peers. And Karofsky.However, I do not think New Directions will accept Dave into their fold. Nor do I think they should. Can you imagine how Kurt would feel? Glee club is a haven. The only safe space these kids have. How will they feel if Will invites the guy that tormented many of them to join? Personally, I would feel threatened, unsafe and betrayed. He needs serious help and support, yes, but his victims also need protection. Their welfare should come first.

Re: Forgiveness

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Actually New Directions is not a haven. In the pilot episode, Puck heaves Kurt into the dumpster while Finn holds Kurt's jacket. Kurt calls Finn out when he tries to rejoin the group: "You threw pee balloons at me." He lives among his tormentors. They may have backed off physically, but even in the Never Been Kissed episode, the gay jabs continue to pour forth from the mouths of Puck and Santana. It makes me angry that week after week Mr. Shue hears and says nothing about those hurtful comments. I think he's an extremely poor excuse for a teacher and a human being.

Re: Forgiveness

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You are very right that glee club is not as much of safe space as it should be. But I do think that the kids perceive it as such. At least compared to everywhere else. And if not a haven, it's at least a place where they can be themselves and find encouragement to pursue their interests. Puck and Santana are a work in progress. They *are* better though. Especially Puck.

I do think that Will needs to do more about them, but I think he's trying to take baby steps with them. I'm reminded of how Puck blew up at him in the principal's office last week when he's was simply trying to help him.

I felt the same way last season about Rachel though. It seemed to be okay to put her down and treat her like crap because she was the "annoying" one. And, ironically, it was Kurt that was bullying *her* last season! I'm really glad they had that moment this season where they seemed to be starting a tentative friendship (and not just Kurt lying about it to try and sabotage her and Finn)--though of course Rachel is the one who reached out first.

Re: Forgiveness

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Let me just say that we're both splitting hairs here, but it's fun. Whenever I get into a Glee storyline discussion, I always keep a looong perspective because a lot of Glee humor is farcical.

Having said that, I believe that New Directions is a "family" as they have explicitly said so. Of course, within the group they can "throw punches" at each other just like brothers and sisters do sometimes. AND, being family, they would stick out for each other like in the Lady Gaga episode.

I just don't understand why people CANNOT accept Karofsky when in fact Puck is already in New Directions. I would even submit that Puck as a person is worse than Karofsky.

1. Puck planned to overturn Artie inside a portalet. Karofsky did not want to fight Artie when Artie intervened for Finn.
2. Puck and Karofsky were both slushie throwers.
3. Even Finn threw eggs at Rachel before he joined the club.

And, besides, I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE SLUSHIES! It's old and no longer funny (if it ever was). I think Karofsky teaming up with Puck and Finn in ND would prevent the the big fat black guy from throwing slushies to anyone in the group ever again. We need to make a stand, no more bullying.

Re: Forgiveness

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I think, unfortunately, Karofsky doesn't benefit from the special circumstances that got Puck (and Santana, Quinn and Britany) into the club. When Puck was let in they needed bodies, sheer numbers, and couldn't afford to be picky about it. When Quinn et al came in I believe I recall a scene with Rachel protesting to Will about it and Will saying, in essence, suck it up, we need the numbers. Now, however, they have enough people to have the luxury of being picky.

I also think it has something to do with the nature of the bullying. While the slushie thing is horrible, it's generic enough and done to enough varied people that it doesn't have nearly the same...revulsion as singling out someone *because* they are a specific thing. All of New Directions got slushied, but Kurt got slushied *and* physically assaulted because he's gay. It would be like Rachel getting slushied because she's Jewish, or Mercedes because she's black. It would be a whole 'nother thing in those cases.

Like I said, I do want Dave to begin his road to redemption, but I strongly suspect it's going to be a bit lonely. Though I can totally see Finn and Puck sort of reaching out to him, as fellow jocks.

Re: Forgiveness

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I personally find it hard to imagine Puck and Finn reaching out to Karofsky, even as fellow jocks, just because Karofsky and them have never been on the same level; they're essentially enemies, or something like.

Unless something happens, that is, I personally can't picture. Especially since they'd probably look for any excuse not to, even if its something trivial as Karofsky playing hockey over football.

In rebuttal to something another person said, the fact that he and Azimio throw slushies around, even if it gets old fast as that person claimed, is not something that bullies tend to consider, as easily amused as they seem to be.

That makes the slushies, though not overly original, at least IC and realistic.

Re: Forgiveness

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You were totally proven right on Tuesday. Neither Finn nor Puck reached out to him. Or stood up to him either. I can't see anyone else trying to help him now, unless it's Emma in an official capacity. Which *is* something I'd like to see happen. For his sake and because I'd actually like to see more scenes of Emma actually doing her job and being competent at it.

You are also right about the slushies and bullies. The things you think they would get bored of apparently NEVER get old.