scans_daily suspended

Feb 27, 2009 20:38

For all members of scans_daily: the community has been suspended for posting copyrighted material without the permission of copyright holders, which is against LiveJournal's ToS. Before you ask ( Read more... )

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crantz February 28 2009, 03:07:38 UTC


Here's actually what he said to me. I forgot how the last paragraph went, so apparently yes, the scans were down before marvel could talk to them. He was reporting them, though.

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buttler February 28 2009, 03:10:01 UTC
Wow, what a massive tool.

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davidkevin February 28 2009, 05:09:53 UTC

The massive tool was whoever was posting scans of entire stories or issues in violation of scans_daily's own rules, and drew this fire as a result.

Peter David has the legal and ethical right (in fact, as the law is written, the responsibility) to protect his copyright. Calling him names is inappropriate.

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buttler February 28 2009, 05:15:29 UTC
The thing is, that didn't happen. A few pages were posted as usual, nowhere near scans-daily's posting limit. The rest was just the (thoroughly inaccurate) ranting of a massive tool who got pissed off because people were talking smack about him on the internet.

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davidkevin February 28 2009, 06:34:41 UTC

Was the entry with the scans open for anyone to see, or Friend-locked to keep it within the community? If the latter he would have to go on what someone else reported as to the size of the scan, who could have her- or himself made an honest mistake, or who could be playing "let's you and him fight".

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buttler February 28 2009, 06:52:17 UTC
Nah, he came in, saw the entry, which had like 4 pages, and had a flamewar with a scans_daily member who was pissed off at his treatment of a favorite character and had expressed it in pretty harsh terms. Then he went and reported to Marvel that people were posting scans.

There was no distinction made of whether it was fair use or not; he just got pissed that people were bad-mouthing him and went out of his way to retaliate through official channels.

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zombiesmut February 28 2009, 17:54:39 UTC
Though yeah, maybe he would have acted differently if people weren't calling him a hack who should die in a fire.

Sad, how some people just can't handle the truth.

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syringavulgaris March 1 2009, 03:51:24 UTC
What I don't understand is, the man has been on Usenet for over ten years. He was forever on rec.arts.comics, back when it was rec.arts.comics. Harsh flamage is not a new fricking concept to him; I know this because I witnessed it in my salad days. No, it's never fun, but why his reaction is suddenly OMG SO MEEEEEEAN, this I do not get.

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cestlavenus February 28 2009, 08:28:57 UTC
Um, if we're talking about the issue of X-Factor most recently posted, the entire issue WAS NOT posted. It was within scans_daily's limits of how much could be posted, if not the mods would have taken care of it.

In fact, I wouldn't have bought that issue if it wasn't for that post. Now I'm sorry I did. PAD doesn't deserve my money.

For the record, I fully believe that I have every right to be pissed at him because:

A - As I said, the entire issue was NOT posted

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B - All PAD had to do was write the mods and ask that his work not be allowed on scans_daily. Obviously they would have complied rather than have him act like a total diva prick and get the whole community killed. The scans_daily mods have always been EXTREMELY respectful to the wishes of the creators.

And FYI, having the legal and ethical right? Does not make him less of a dick. If he had been willing to talk to us instead of throwing a tantrum things could have worked out for everyone. Now we're without a community and PAD, I'd imagine, is going to lose a lot of fans (and hopefully business).

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neotoma February 28 2009, 15:29:35 UTC
If it was a Marvel book, Peter David does not own the copyright -- his work on those books is work-for-hire.

And his behavior ensures that I will not pick up the X-factor trades that several people recommended to me (and that I checked via scans_daily to see if they were indeed to my taste).

Instead, he joins Frank Miller in the "will not buy anything with his name on it, including movies, tv episodes, and books, ever again, and will in fact tell people at length why they should avoid his work" bin. So... I hope he's pleased with himself, because he's made at least one rabid anti-fan today.

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airings February 28 2009, 18:10:05 UTC
The massive tool was whoever was posting scans of entire stories or issues in violation of [info]scans_daily's own rules, and drew this fire as a result.

Massive tool speaking. I uploaded half of the pages, in compliance with the community's rules.

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airings March 4 2009, 09:34:19 UTC
Probably not. That's what a lot of people are arguing about now at the CBR forums etc.

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betterthanlegos February 28 2009, 03:11:26 UTC
Wow.

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