hey rams it´s meg, if you´d care to hear any other perspective then your own on this retarded subject,heres mine: first of all i certainly understand you on the feeling insecure about the friendships (some of them at least)in berlin subject.your ideas about why this might be,berlins transient factor and such, i also agree with.infact it can become difficult to be constantly saying goodbye to this or that person,like dealing with death every other week or something.this can be very hard on people of a certain sensitivity.sometimes i´ve even seen these sorts of people purposely sever ties with their friends in the weeks or days before the departure of either one or the other so as ,i´m assuming to make the seperation less painful. because what i know of you,the small part you that you show to people,i like,i will give the benefit of believing that this was a way of begining the sabotage process for yourself. i know you are trying to hate everyone for talking shit or whatever,but actually no one was. people were upset for one simple reason,and that i even have to tell that this is the reason proves how self delusional you are being:how incredibly inconsiderate ,selfish and un friendly it is to soberly and calculatingly throw a bunch of red paint on some crazy spaz cunt who had already proven she was willing to throw beer on you inside near the equipment and on your jacket,to do this outside my store ,which is my only lively hood,where she could have distroyed a whole shitload of the stuff i´m trying sell,not to mention the art which could have been fucked so easily. as it was the damage was minimum.i have to repaint some of the floors,walls and one of the rugs was ruined. and honestly if you had just owned up to the fact that that was a fucking lame thing to and at least said you were a litle sorry it would have been better.i would have probably thrown the bitch out if you had just told me what was going on.maybe just think about this and think about how considerate you yourself are as friend.also, i will miss you.deal with it.
Re: that thingscharnweberAugust 29 2005, 13:52:51 UTC
well i grew up right outside dc, which is, due much to its position as the seat of an ever-shifting u.s. government, also a city of transients. kids don't really let that kind of thing run their lives and i don't think it had too much of an effect on the way i or my peers made friends - though every year, one of your friends would invariably move away, and you'd meet new people, this didn't mean you'd devote yourself any less to the friends you had. at this point, maybe people are a little more fragile, i don't really know. i haven't seen anyone sabotage their own friendships but i don't doubt that it happens.. whether this would be less painful than just saying goodbye and hoping to see the person again probably varies wildly among individuals. if i am secretly trying to sabotage my relationships with people, it is completely unbeknownst to me and consciously seems like a very roundabout and silly way to do things. like i said i have been worried for a few months about whether some of the people i think of as my friends have a basically different relationship to me, be it casual acquaintance, roommate, whatever. i was slowly finding this out to be the case, which is not a fun process, and not the kind of thing you can accelerate by saying "look, are we friends or not" because you never will have an honest discussion about it given that pretense. mostly it is this uncertainty that bothers me. the rest of it... i asked them to leave as soon as they started screaming at sarah (they hadn't been screaming at me, just heckling me). they refused and started screaming at me, which is when the the girl poured beer on me outside, on the sidewalk, not in your store and nowhere near the equipment, art, wares. amazed you didn't hear or see it and that no one told you about it. you're right, i didn't think that people would bring her into the gallery the way she was acting, but that was pretty short-sighted. so, i'm sorry it happened outside of your store. i honestly didn't think about the possibility that she might go on a rampage smearing herself on your stuff. guess you didn't kick her out after all, eh? i thought maybe you had. no offense, but i don't think that the reason people stood by and watched all this happen without saying a word or interfering is because they were concerned for your store, nor do i believe that that's why i caught shit for it afterwards.. but maybe i'm still delusional.
how full of shit can one person be?
anonymous
August 29 2005, 16:34:36 UTC
meg again. this isn't something that "happened" outside of my store - this is something that you did. why can't you just come out and apologize directly? the fact that you are still creeping around the subject tells me that you realize what you did was completely fucked up but are too much of a coward to actually admit it. gtrow the fuck up
Re: how full of shit can one person be?scharnweberAugust 29 2005, 16:48:58 UTC
hey meg, how about how much time does one person have to sit around and psycho-analyze others to death....yes something happened that night,i was assaulted by someone and no one defended me.then i tried to defend my self in a non violent fasion and all i hear from you is "oh my god. my curtains, my rug! now kids stop fighting!". how old are you? 45? maybe i need to grow up,but you need to stop acting like everyones fucking mom...
Re: how full of shit can one person be?
anonymous
August 29 2005, 16:54:11 UTC
i have taken your stupid cloud box down and put it outside of the store so you had better come pick it up before it gets rained on, or a dog decides to pee on it. oops, too late.
if you´d care to hear any other perspective then your own on this retarded subject,heres mine:
first of all i certainly understand you on the feeling insecure about the friendships (some of them at least)in berlin subject.your ideas about why this might be,berlins transient factor and such, i also agree with.infact it can become difficult to be constantly saying goodbye to this or that person,like dealing with death every other week or something.this can be very hard on people of a certain sensitivity.sometimes i´ve even seen these sorts of people purposely sever ties with their friends in the weeks or days before the departure of either one or the other so as ,i´m assuming to make the seperation less painful.
because what i know of you,the small part you that you show to people,i like,i will give the benefit of believing that this was a way of begining the sabotage process for yourself.
i know you are trying to hate everyone for talking shit or whatever,but actually no one was.
people were upset for one simple reason,and that i even have to tell that this is the reason proves how self delusional you are being:how incredibly inconsiderate ,selfish and un friendly it is to soberly and calculatingly throw a bunch of red paint on some crazy spaz cunt who had already proven she was willing to throw beer on you inside near the equipment and on your
jacket,to do this outside my store ,which is my only lively hood,where she could have distroyed a whole shitload of the stuff i´m trying sell,not to mention the art which could have been fucked so easily.
as it was the damage was minimum.i have to repaint some of the floors,walls and one of the rugs was ruined.
and honestly if you had just owned up to the fact that that was a fucking lame thing to and at least said you were a litle sorry it would have been better.i would have probably thrown the bitch out if you had just told me what was going on.maybe just think about this and think about how considerate you yourself are as friend.also, i will miss you.deal with it.
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the rest of it... i asked them to leave as soon as they started screaming at sarah (they hadn't been screaming at me, just heckling me). they refused and started screaming at me, which is when the the girl poured beer on me outside, on the sidewalk, not in your store and nowhere near the equipment, art, wares. amazed you didn't hear or see it and that no one told you about it. you're right, i didn't think that people would bring her into the gallery the way she was acting, but that was pretty short-sighted. so, i'm sorry it happened outside of your store. i honestly didn't think about the possibility that she might go on a rampage smearing herself on your stuff. guess you didn't kick her out after all, eh? i thought maybe you had.
no offense, but i don't think that the reason people stood by and watched all this happen without saying a word or interfering is because they were concerned for your store, nor do i believe that that's why i caught shit for it afterwards.. but maybe i'm still delusional.
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how about how much time does one person have to sit around and psycho-analyze others to death....yes something happened that night,i was assaulted by someone and no one defended me.then i tried to defend my self in a non violent fasion and all i hear from you is "oh my god. my curtains, my rug! now kids stop fighting!".
how old are you? 45? maybe i need to grow up,but you need to stop acting like everyones fucking mom...
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