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savoysalad June 3 2005, 20:04:30 UTC
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8242

ben stein weighs in on deep throat

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scarletxanatos June 3 2005, 20:43:31 UTC
He calls John Kennedy a drug addict, Lyndon Johnson a war-monger, and Bill Clinton a seducer.

And then has the gall to say that people only focus on the negatives of Nixon's career?

I mean, I agree that Nixon did some good things, and I know he did some bad thigns. But if an arsonist starts a fire, and then saves a kitten from the flames, do you call him a hero?

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scarletxanatos June 3 2005, 21:18:40 UTC
I know what you mean, but "Watergate" took on such a huge meaning, that Nixon's name, after his cover-up, couldn't help but become synonymous with corruption and scandal.

What's fucked up is that nobody who didn't live through it has no idea who Haldeman is, or, G. Gordan Liddy, or what exactly Nixon did wrong.

Maybe he'll get a better fate as time goes on. As people who hated him fade away, his presidency will be looked at objectively.

But obstructing justice, perjury, and basic deceivery? Not cool. In that respect, I suppose Clinton can be analogous.

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dacoopbear June 4 2005, 11:12:57 UTC
what did nixon do that is so wrong? he laid dont all politicians lie today you dont see all them getting impeached so why was nixon so bad

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dacoopbear June 4 2005, 14:03:11 UTC
he wasnt kicked out but he was impeached he didnt commit a crime

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scarletxanatos June 4 2005, 12:20:19 UTC
He covered up a crime. Though all politician's lie, not all commit crimes and lie about them.

Furthermore, Nixon wasn't impeached. They didn't have time to. He resigned before they could, namely because he didn't want to be convicted of anything. And he wasn't. Ford pardoned him when he took over.

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dacoopbear June 4 2005, 14:05:12 UTC
being impeached doesnt kick you out if you are impeached then the have hearings and vote to decide if they want to kick you out Clinton was impeach as well

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punkdjscribz June 4 2005, 12:53:12 UTC
Basically everything he said. You don't break into the headquarters of your major rival political party for leads on their positions. That kind of stuff happens in poser democratic countires, countries that are led by a major political party with one small rival who will never overcome the other. It can't happen in America, because it's "communist".

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dacoopbear June 4 2005, 14:06:06 UTC
he didnt break into any building some one else did

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punkdjscribz June 4 2005, 14:49:52 UTC
Who was working for him.

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dacoopbear June 4 2005, 14:56:46 UTC
that was never proven

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scarletxanatos June 4 2005, 18:31:14 UTC
No, his employees hired people to do it. And then they paid the robbers not to talk. They obstructed justice.

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dacoopbear June 4 2005, 22:55:07 UTC
he didnt obstruct anything others did

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punkdjscribz June 5 2005, 07:03:12 UTC
BUT HE PAID THEM TO DO IT.

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