New Classics?

Jul 02, 2010 17:43

My boss's daughter (the same one with the blog) is at an age where she can watch most of the classic movies and wants more cultural literacy. What should she watch?

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kid_prufrock July 2 2010, 23:02:13 UTC
I'm not sure how classic we're talking here. '30s to '50s? '70s? '90s? Classics in English or classics in all languages? Each group has movies that (a) one wouldn't know to watch unless one sought them out and took advice; (b) are really wonderful; and (c) enable one to participate in a certain culture in a sensitive and sophisticated way. But the cultures one becomes literate in differ: I think mainstream culture, even its more educated and cosmopolitan parts, have mostly moved past old movies, for example: they're increasingly becoming actively relevant only to aficionados (though appreciatively nodded at by lots more people), maybe like the way 19th century Continental literature is.

Thus, if I wanted to recommend films to a young person that would both enrich her and enable to have a shared point of cultural reference with educated and cosmopolitan people, I'd make sure she understood, say, the early independent and cult films of the late 1980s and 1990s. Start with David Lynch, maybe.

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sbeath July 3 2010, 02:06:51 UTC
Very good points. Not terribly classic--looking for general cultural literacy, so perhaps "New Classics". I think Clueless and The Usual Suspects might be new classics. I could be wrong.

The daughter in question is in middle school, smart but not nerdy. The pool you suggest sound fabulous, but I'm not literate enough to know who David Lynch is without a google search :( I might follow your advice for myself, but do you have other specific recommendations I can pass along, now that I've been more clear?

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kid_prufrock July 3 2010, 20:19:45 UTC
I think both of those movies are great choices! Some other movies in a similar vein (which you've probably already seen): The Big Lebowski (probably the biggest "new classic" of them all), Groundhog Day, Fargo, Dangerous Liaisons, Adaptation or Ghost World (though these are a bit later), any of the Christopher Guest movies (e.g. This is Spinal Tap, Waiting for Guffman, Best in Show, etc.), and the first two big Wes Anderson movies (Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums). These aren't really cult films, but they're certainly New Classics.

Whenever I talk about movies what I really learn is that I probably know a lot less about movies than I thought I did. :|

I think your intuitions are probably better than mine are, here, all things considered.

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kid_prufrock July 3 2010, 20:26:44 UTC
And come to think of it, she might really get more out of TELEVISION. (Freaks and Geeks? Daria? Buffy, even? She may well not have been BORN until The Simpsons had already jumped the shark!)

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sildra July 5 2010, 19:41:36 UTC
I was kind of thinking that too, especially with your suggestion of David Lynch. Most good television has really been in the past 20 years. All these random shows like Dead Like Me or whatever seem perfectly normal in the context of the past 15 years, but would have really stood out in the 80's, say.

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sildra July 3 2010, 02:35:22 UTC
If you're having a kid start with David Lynch, it should not be "Eraserhead". It might be ok thing to put on a list but it would be a terrible place to start.

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