[TOKIO] Hey Hey Hey talk - 12/05/2005
For guingel! This is a detailed summary of TOKIO's appearance on Heyx3 from 2005, where there was much teasing of Leader and a ranking survey of the guys by random OLs on the street.
A quick warning: Since this isn't a direct translation of the entire interview, I left out bits here and there that I felt unnecessary. They're mostly comments by Downtown, but if you really want to know every single thing that was said, you can watch the video clip for yourself :D
Comments are always loved; enjoy!
For those who don't have the file yet but would like to watch it, you can download it from this post at tokio_suki-- it's a locked community though, so be sure to join first!
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Hey Hey Hey talk - 12/05/2005
They kicked things off with more talk about the pre-TOKIO days when they still lived in dormitories together. Apparently there used to be a tradition in the dorms: everyone avoided getting close to Joshima.
Back in their times, there used to be about two or three buildings. One was for the top Juniors such as KinKi Kids ("Although they're kouhais of ours, we were kind of like... leftovers [compared to them] at the time." - Taichi), and then, continued Taichi, there was also a guy called Joshima, who had become somewhat of a landlord type person at the dorms-- in this case, he was referring to how Leader had been there for so long that he seemed more like a staff member than a Junior.
At this point, Downtown starts to catch on-- does that mean if they go near Joshima, they would turn out weird too? Apparently yes, said Taichi: "There's an 'Ahh it's over' kind of feeling. If we go to that dorm building it feels like it's over for us." Sadly, Leader didn't have a single clue about it and just continued going about his business like usual.
Mabo offered another anecdote: "When we went back to the dorms after work-- let's say A was the building for the top Juniors, and B was the place that Leader lived in-- we usually go straight to A, but then the car started heading in a different direction from usual. And then the car passes through and we go 'thanks for the hard work!' and get off the car, we look over and hey wait a minute, isn't this B?! '...ah, it's over for us.'"
Even Gussan had something to say: "I don't know if this was lucky or unlucky, but I was in a two-member unit with him called Joshima Shigeru Band once. I had become B!"
The A dorm had a staff member there to help out around the building (eg. cooking, cleaning), but B didn't; it was another indication of how they were treated differently. So the person who cooked for the B dorm was actually Leader. Downtown made a couple of funny cracks about how Leader was like the old man at the cafeteria (who cooks and serves the food), or a nanny-type person. They then asked if Leader himself had ever noticed that hey, maybe it was over for him too, and Leader replied: "Nope, I still had a lot of dreams/aspirations!" But, continued Downtown, there were people who came in after him who became more popular than him, no? How did he feel about that? "I thought, 'ahh, it's nice to be young'."
The interview naturally progressed to talking about Leader's age (22) at the time, and they displayed a photo of him from 1992. Everyone burst out laughing at the picture, making fun of pretty much everything they laid their eyes on. They were amused he looked like an archeology buff, like he was carrying a brush and a spade with him ("Speaking of which, you still managed to get into Johnny's [like that]!" - Matsumoto).
And that was still back when they were Juniors, Mabo was quick to add; when they formed a group together, they were really convinced things were over for them with Leader there. Once again, Downtown asked Joshima if he had picked up on those sentiments. "No," responded Leader. "This is the first time I ever heard about it."
They turned their attention back on the picture again, and began pointing out his sense of fashion, with the beach sandals and the watch turned inwards (which seems to be an old/tacky thing to do?). And the bag! What's up with that bag anyway?
It was at this point that they noticed it was Mabo at the left of the picture (they had pointed out Gussan peeking behind Leader earlier); Mabo expressed extreme shock that it was him, and admitted that he had in fact wanted to point out how dorky the guy looked.
They wrapped up the free talk part of the show with the conclusion that Leader was looking much sharper now than he did back then. Someone - I'm not sure who, but I'm thinking Taichi - summed it up perfectly: "It's a good thing you debuted."
And now, onto the passerby ranking! They surveyed 100 random OLs (office ladies) in the Marunouchi area and asked several questions about their images of TOKIO, then compiled all the votes together into a survey ranking. The following questions were asked:
"Who seems the most likely to be a bad drunk in TOKIO?"
5. Nagase - 14 votes
("He seems like he would yell or get angry suddenly when he gets drunk.")
4. Taichi - 15 votes
("He seems like someone who is normally adult-like, but when he gets drunk he would lecture a lot or something, like a change of personality.")
3. Mabo - 17 votes
("He seems like the type to sit in a corner at the counter and glance around without saying anything, like someone who would make the atmosphere very gloomy.")
2. Gussan - 20 votes
("He seems like someone who would climb up an utility pole by himself or something.")
1. Leader - 34 votes
("He seems like someone who would crack a lot of oyaji gags when drunk." "He seems like the really annoying type who would start dancing naked when we drink together.")
Their responses: Leader makes for a very normal drunk! For one thing, said Mabo, Leader would never crack any oyaji gags. He actually acts very cool when drunk... in fact, Nagase claimed that Leader would act snobby (or in Downtown's words, narcisstic). And, Mabo continued, when he's in a good mood he would always do magic tricks. Taichi revealed that Leader puts a lot of magic flash paper in his wallet, to which Leader seemed to finally get embarrassed and said he didn't have to bring that up. ("Like an old uncle in the family!" - Matsumoto)
But, Downtown concluded, Leader wouldn't make a racket. Mabo agreed, then pointed to Gussan as the actual rambunctious drunk. Taichi had a lot of stories to tell about Gussan, apparently: not only had the fingernail on his thumb been ripped off by Gussan, he had also been forced to bite onto a towel-- at this point, Gussan started to wave his hands and vehemently deny all of Taichi's claims.
However, it's true that Taichi is the type to lecture others when drunk. ("When he starts to say the same thing three times, you know he's drunk." - Gussan) Gussan proceeded to imitate the way Taichi would act, patting him hard on the back and going "Yamaguchi, you've really worked hard."
Mabo chimed in with his own, very convincing imitation. First, he said, Taichi would ask, "Matsuoka, are you content to be here right now? You're supposed to be (up) here, no? Not (down) here, (up) here." He would just suddenly feel like saying that kind of thing, admitted Taichi himself; and then in the end, he would even cry. ("He would say 'But I love everyone!' and start crying." - Mabo)
Since Mabo was so chatty, they moved onto him next: it turns out that Mabo loves to sing karaoke when drunk. And not only that, said Nagase, it's not the kind where you sing in a room with a TV, but in front of other patrons in the bar. One time when they were at a bar like that, a song by Yazawa Eikichi started playing suddenly. Nagase thought that it was definitely picked by Mabo, but he couldn't find the guy when he looked around the room.
As he was wondering where Mabo could have gone, the door to the washroom swung open with a bang right when the melody to the first verse began. Mabo went over to the microphone stand, picked it up, started twirling it around and suddenly yelled "DOUMO!!" into the mic. (...and yes, the other patrons in the bar were just normal people.)
"Who seems the most likely to own tacky clothes in TOKIO?"
5. Taichi - 5 votes
("He seems like he doesn't decide what he wants to wear so you get a little confused, like he would wear peculiar clothes or something.")
4. Nagase - 7 votes
("He seems like he would wear unexpected clothing like jeans with really small shoes.")
3. Mabo - 11 votes
("He seems like he would wear really form-fitting tank tops with a nipples-standing-up type of appeal.")
2. Gussan - 18 votes
("He seems like he would have bits of rice sticking to his clothes when he's at home.")
1. Leader - 59 votes
("He seems like someone who is always wearing health sandals." "He seems like the type to have holes in his socks or something.")
This time, everyone was clamouring to spill the beans about how badly Leader dresses in private. For example, said Mabo, he would wear a sun visor with a suit. Nagase was up next with a little story: "Isn't it popular right now to wear a chain over here? It's called a wallet chain or something. When I was wearing one of those, he came over and asked me quietly, 'What's this chain called?'. So I told him it was a wallet chain and he said, 'Wallet chain...' and then disappeared off. The next time I saw him again, he was wearing one too."
And not only that, continued Taichi, the bag that he carries around is actually a shopping bag from a conbini. Hamada scolded Leader and told him to buy his own bag, but Leader hastened to defend himself: "I've started to use paper bags lately!"
"Who seems the most likely to be considerate to women in TOKIO?"
5. Nagase - 9 votes
("He seems like he would properly respond to all of his emails.")
4. Gussan - 12 votes
("He seems like he has a light step, like you rely on him for anything.")
3. Leader - 16 votes
("He seems like he's rather uptight but is actually very considerate.")
2. Taichi - 30 votes
("He seems like he would plan a lot of things for his girlfriend.")
1. Mabo - 33 votes
("He seems like he's very considerate but would end up a bit stifling." "He seems like he would act cool in front of women, but when he sends emails he would add hearts to them.")
They were quick to point out that Leader is actually very considerate, but Nagase and Gussan were of the opinion that Mabo was considerate towards all people and not just women.
At this point, Mabo posed a question to the others: When they see the heart emoticon used, don't they feel a bit lost sometimes? Because, he continued, his mom would occasionally send him emails with hearts in them, and he would get all dokidoki over them.
So Matsumoto asked the group if they used hearts in their emails, to which all of them said no-- but Leader looks as if he would use a lot, according to Downtown, like he even has his own unique emoticons or something. Everyone laughed hysterically as Leader helplessly asked where you could even find such a thing. Downtown seemed really set on this emoticon-using image of Leader, though, and further asked the others if they felt that way too... apparently, they do. Why?
"On music variety shows like this where there are a lot of females," said Taichi, "the number of times he peeks around him would increase a lot." Not only that, but Leader had been like this since they were Juniors, according to Mabo. When they were backdancing for guests or their sempais, if a female idol came over he would definitely check her out. Hamada listened carefully, then made the following conclusion: "So basically you're a voyeur?"
In a rare fit of indignance, Leader reacted to this by asking him why he said that on television, and whether or not he really thought that way. When Matsumoto asked if he would try to pick anyone up in that kind of situation (ie. in the studio), Leader denied immediately ("Because I'm working right now!").
The topic of Leader's age came up again; at 35 years of age, it was about time for him to get married, right? The rest of TOKIO agreed and said that they were all looking forward to it, but... "Iyaa... not yet..." Leader hasn't thought about marriage yet, apparently.
Once again, Hamada seemed of the opinion that something was wrong with him. "Do you have weird inclinations or something?" And once again, Leader asked why he had to say that on television. But Joshima is still an idol after all, Hamada pointed out; how can he be so strange otherwise?
"I don't have any (weird inclinations)!" Leader said firmly. "And even if I really did, it's not something I can say on television, is it!!"
A quick warning: Since this isn't a direct translation of the entire interview, I left out bits here and there that I felt unnecessary. They're mostly comments by Downtown, but if you really want to know every single thing that was said, you can watch the video clip for yourself :D
Comments are always loved; enjoy!
For those who don't have the file yet but would like to watch it, you can download it from this post at tokio_suki-- it's a locked community though, so be sure to join first!
~*~
Hey Hey Hey talk - 12/05/2005
They kicked things off with more talk about the pre-TOKIO days when they still lived in dormitories together. Apparently there used to be a tradition in the dorms: everyone avoided getting close to Joshima.
Back in their times, there used to be about two or three buildings. One was for the top Juniors such as KinKi Kids ("Although they're kouhais of ours, we were kind of like... leftovers [compared to them] at the time." - Taichi), and then, continued Taichi, there was also a guy called Joshima, who had become somewhat of a landlord type person at the dorms-- in this case, he was referring to how Leader had been there for so long that he seemed more like a staff member than a Junior.
At this point, Downtown starts to catch on-- does that mean if they go near Joshima, they would turn out weird too? Apparently yes, said Taichi: "There's an 'Ahh it's over' kind of feeling. If we go to that dorm building it feels like it's over for us." Sadly, Leader didn't have a single clue about it and just continued going about his business like usual.
Mabo offered another anecdote: "When we went back to the dorms after work-- let's say A was the building for the top Juniors, and B was the place that Leader lived in-- we usually go straight to A, but then the car started heading in a different direction from usual. And then the car passes through and we go 'thanks for the hard work!' and get off the car, we look over and hey wait a minute, isn't this B?! '...ah, it's over for us.'"
Even Gussan had something to say: "I don't know if this was lucky or unlucky, but I was in a two-member unit with him called Joshima Shigeru Band once. I had become B!"
The A dorm had a staff member there to help out around the building (eg. cooking, cleaning), but B didn't; it was another indication of how they were treated differently. So the person who cooked for the B dorm was actually Leader. Downtown made a couple of funny cracks about how Leader was like the old man at the cafeteria (who cooks and serves the food), or a nanny-type person. They then asked if Leader himself had ever noticed that hey, maybe it was over for him too, and Leader replied: "Nope, I still had a lot of dreams/aspirations!" But, continued Downtown, there were people who came in after him who became more popular than him, no? How did he feel about that? "I thought, 'ahh, it's nice to be young'."
The interview naturally progressed to talking about Leader's age (22) at the time, and they displayed a photo of him from 1992. Everyone burst out laughing at the picture, making fun of pretty much everything they laid their eyes on. They were amused he looked like an archeology buff, like he was carrying a brush and a spade with him ("Speaking of which, you still managed to get into Johnny's [like that]!" - Matsumoto).
And that was still back when they were Juniors, Mabo was quick to add; when they formed a group together, they were really convinced things were over for them with Leader there. Once again, Downtown asked Joshima if he had picked up on those sentiments. "No," responded Leader. "This is the first time I ever heard about it."
They turned their attention back on the picture again, and began pointing out his sense of fashion, with the beach sandals and the watch turned inwards (which seems to be an old/tacky thing to do?). And the bag! What's up with that bag anyway?
It was at this point that they noticed it was Mabo at the left of the picture (they had pointed out Gussan peeking behind Leader earlier); Mabo expressed extreme shock that it was him, and admitted that he had in fact wanted to point out how dorky the guy looked.
They wrapped up the free talk part of the show with the conclusion that Leader was looking much sharper now than he did back then. Someone - I'm not sure who, but I'm thinking Taichi - summed it up perfectly: "It's a good thing you debuted."
And now, onto the passerby ranking! They surveyed 100 random OLs (office ladies) in the Marunouchi area and asked several questions about their images of TOKIO, then compiled all the votes together into a survey ranking. The following questions were asked:
"Who seems the most likely to be a bad drunk in TOKIO?"
5. Nagase - 14 votes
("He seems like he would yell or get angry suddenly when he gets drunk.")
4. Taichi - 15 votes
("He seems like someone who is normally adult-like, but when he gets drunk he would lecture a lot or something, like a change of personality.")
3. Mabo - 17 votes
("He seems like the type to sit in a corner at the counter and glance around without saying anything, like someone who would make the atmosphere very gloomy.")
2. Gussan - 20 votes
("He seems like someone who would climb up an utility pole by himself or something.")
1. Leader - 34 votes
("He seems like someone who would crack a lot of oyaji gags when drunk." "He seems like the really annoying type who would start dancing naked when we drink together.")
Their responses: Leader makes for a very normal drunk! For one thing, said Mabo, Leader would never crack any oyaji gags. He actually acts very cool when drunk... in fact, Nagase claimed that Leader would act snobby (or in Downtown's words, narcisstic). And, Mabo continued, when he's in a good mood he would always do magic tricks. Taichi revealed that Leader puts a lot of magic flash paper in his wallet, to which Leader seemed to finally get embarrassed and said he didn't have to bring that up. ("Like an old uncle in the family!" - Matsumoto)
But, Downtown concluded, Leader wouldn't make a racket. Mabo agreed, then pointed to Gussan as the actual rambunctious drunk. Taichi had a lot of stories to tell about Gussan, apparently: not only had the fingernail on his thumb been ripped off by Gussan, he had also been forced to bite onto a towel-- at this point, Gussan started to wave his hands and vehemently deny all of Taichi's claims.
However, it's true that Taichi is the type to lecture others when drunk. ("When he starts to say the same thing three times, you know he's drunk." - Gussan) Gussan proceeded to imitate the way Taichi would act, patting him hard on the back and going "Yamaguchi, you've really worked hard."
Mabo chimed in with his own, very convincing imitation. First, he said, Taichi would ask, "Matsuoka, are you content to be here right now? You're supposed to be (up) here, no? Not (down) here, (up) here." He would just suddenly feel like saying that kind of thing, admitted Taichi himself; and then in the end, he would even cry. ("He would say 'But I love everyone!' and start crying." - Mabo)
Since Mabo was so chatty, they moved onto him next: it turns out that Mabo loves to sing karaoke when drunk. And not only that, said Nagase, it's not the kind where you sing in a room with a TV, but in front of other patrons in the bar. One time when they were at a bar like that, a song by Yazawa Eikichi started playing suddenly. Nagase thought that it was definitely picked by Mabo, but he couldn't find the guy when he looked around the room.
As he was wondering where Mabo could have gone, the door to the washroom swung open with a bang right when the melody to the first verse began. Mabo went over to the microphone stand, picked it up, started twirling it around and suddenly yelled "DOUMO!!" into the mic. (...and yes, the other patrons in the bar were just normal people.)
"Who seems the most likely to own tacky clothes in TOKIO?"
5. Taichi - 5 votes
("He seems like he doesn't decide what he wants to wear so you get a little confused, like he would wear peculiar clothes or something.")
4. Nagase - 7 votes
("He seems like he would wear unexpected clothing like jeans with really small shoes.")
3. Mabo - 11 votes
("He seems like he would wear really form-fitting tank tops with a nipples-standing-up type of appeal.")
2. Gussan - 18 votes
("He seems like he would have bits of rice sticking to his clothes when he's at home.")
1. Leader - 59 votes
("He seems like someone who is always wearing health sandals." "He seems like the type to have holes in his socks or something.")
This time, everyone was clamouring to spill the beans about how badly Leader dresses in private. For example, said Mabo, he would wear a sun visor with a suit. Nagase was up next with a little story: "Isn't it popular right now to wear a chain over here? It's called a wallet chain or something. When I was wearing one of those, he came over and asked me quietly, 'What's this chain called?'. So I told him it was a wallet chain and he said, 'Wallet chain...' and then disappeared off. The next time I saw him again, he was wearing one too."
And not only that, continued Taichi, the bag that he carries around is actually a shopping bag from a conbini. Hamada scolded Leader and told him to buy his own bag, but Leader hastened to defend himself: "I've started to use paper bags lately!"
"Who seems the most likely to be considerate to women in TOKIO?"
5. Nagase - 9 votes
("He seems like he would properly respond to all of his emails.")
4. Gussan - 12 votes
("He seems like he has a light step, like you rely on him for anything.")
3. Leader - 16 votes
("He seems like he's rather uptight but is actually very considerate.")
2. Taichi - 30 votes
("He seems like he would plan a lot of things for his girlfriend.")
1. Mabo - 33 votes
("He seems like he's very considerate but would end up a bit stifling." "He seems like he would act cool in front of women, but when he sends emails he would add hearts to them.")
They were quick to point out that Leader is actually very considerate, but Nagase and Gussan were of the opinion that Mabo was considerate towards all people and not just women.
At this point, Mabo posed a question to the others: When they see the heart emoticon used, don't they feel a bit lost sometimes? Because, he continued, his mom would occasionally send him emails with hearts in them, and he would get all dokidoki over them.
So Matsumoto asked the group if they used hearts in their emails, to which all of them said no-- but Leader looks as if he would use a lot, according to Downtown, like he even has his own unique emoticons or something. Everyone laughed hysterically as Leader helplessly asked where you could even find such a thing. Downtown seemed really set on this emoticon-using image of Leader, though, and further asked the others if they felt that way too... apparently, they do. Why?
"On music variety shows like this where there are a lot of females," said Taichi, "the number of times he peeks around him would increase a lot." Not only that, but Leader had been like this since they were Juniors, according to Mabo. When they were backdancing for guests or their sempais, if a female idol came over he would definitely check her out. Hamada listened carefully, then made the following conclusion: "So basically you're a voyeur?"
In a rare fit of indignance, Leader reacted to this by asking him why he said that on television, and whether or not he really thought that way. When Matsumoto asked if he would try to pick anyone up in that kind of situation (ie. in the studio), Leader denied immediately ("Because I'm working right now!").
The topic of Leader's age came up again; at 35 years of age, it was about time for him to get married, right? The rest of TOKIO agreed and said that they were all looking forward to it, but... "Iyaa... not yet..." Leader hasn't thought about marriage yet, apparently.
Once again, Hamada seemed of the opinion that something was wrong with him. "Do you have weird inclinations or something?" And once again, Leader asked why he had to say that on television. But Joshima is still an idol after all, Hamada pointed out; how can he be so strange otherwise?
"I don't have any (weird inclinations)!" Leader said firmly. "And even if I really did, it's not something I can say on television, is it!!"