Sometimes I forget that LJ exists

Aug 07, 2006 13:33

So I forgot all about enticing people with my "I'm a homewrecking whore" preview . . . so now I shall tell the tale of my slut-dom:

Scott and his friend Natalie (who was very nice, by the way) picked me up so we could all go to Ann Arbor for some Necto goodness.  We arrived before 11PM so that we could get in with no cover and also enjoy half-priced ( Read more... )

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satyrcmu August 11 2006, 17:12:41 UTC
Well . . . that was . . . interesting. I appreciate the honest opinion, however I think I may have been misunderstood . . . so there's a few things I'd like to clear up.

First off, I don't make out with any guy who has lips . . . in fact it's very rare that I make out with people I don't know well. You may remember me saying "...I never randomly make out with people I don't know..." What happened that night was by no means the norm.

I'm also not confused when a guy wants to sleep with me; guys like sex, I understand that. I just get pissed off when that is all they're looking for. I won't be a conquest. Furthermore, I don't send mixed messages to guys . . . I'm very upfront with them. They know that things will not go further, and they know that if they try and push things further I will leave. If any of my messages are getting mixed, it is certainly not something I'm doing.

Yes, I do have a problem with the promiscuity in the gay community, and will continue to have a problem with it. Making out once at a club and being promiscuous are two very different things. And as for appearances: I danced with one guy that night, and made out with one guy . . . if we're going just on appearances, he could have been my boyfriend. There was nothing, in terms of appearances, that would have lead people to believe it was just random. If I were grinding and making out with multiple guys then I would have appeared promiscuous, but such is not the case.

I will continue to act prudish in my LiveJournal entries and in my life . . . because it is MY life and MY journal. If you do not enjoy the things I have to say in this journal, STOP READING IT. Perhaps try getting a life of your own . . . just a suggestion. Although I understand that anonymously criticizing other people's lives does take up a lot of time.

Hypocrisy may be your hot button, but anonymity is mine. If you know me and have a problem with what I do or say, tell me . . . don't comment to my journal. If you don't know me than why the fuck are you reading my journal, and why the fuck do you care?

I'd take your comments more seriously if you had the balls to tell me who you are. Otherwise, go eat a cock you fucking queef.

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marabrozune August 11 2006, 18:20:00 UTC
Did you ever know that you're my hero, everything I wish I could be I could fly higher than a segull...you are the wind beneath my wing.

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marabrozune August 11 2006, 18:20:53 UTC
p.s. you don't have to make this dealie friends only but you can track their ISP(?)addresses.

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mutedpurple August 12 2006, 01:26:53 UTC
His writing style is irritatingly juvenile? You didn't capitalize a single sentence, and there are more than a handful of grammatical and spelling errors throughout this unnecessary diatribe. Do you really think that attacking somebody that you probably don't know with superfluous obsfucation is really taking a stand?

As far as petty mud-slinging is concerned, you openly admit that you are catty. As a member of a minority community that is not openly accepted by a majority of the population, I think that you really owe it to yourself to be kind to your fellow man, and put away this pretentious, holier-than-thou attitude.

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satyrcmu August 12 2006, 02:03:47 UTC
it is not necesary to follow grammatical rules in an informal setting. i don't feel like capitalizing sentences, and i have a hard time finding many, if any, grammatical and spelling mistakes. even still, this isn't a dissertation, and i don't feel as if i'm required to scrutinize my every word so that they may pass some third party's quality test.
and i didn't say i was catty. i said that that one sentence may seem catty. if you weren't so busy looking for irrelevant faults in my argument (read: grammatical and spelling mistakes don't go to the heart of my cedibility), you would have known that.
and as i've said before, hypocrisy is my main annoyance. but i realize you feel like you have to protect derek, so go ahead. but keep in mind, this is a discussion between him and me, and your opinion really is unimportant.

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mutedpurple August 12 2006, 04:05:37 UTC
My point is that you claim "hypocrisy is [your] main annoyance," yet you engage in activities for which you criticized another person. Your point seems to be that you have a vendetta against somebody that you don't know. Furthermore, telling me that me or my opinion is unimportant is a really pathetic attempt to avoid the truth.

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satyrcmu August 12 2006, 16:02:20 UTC
i criticized derek for promoting the stereotype of promiscuity in the gay community and acting naïve and incredulous about it--i do not engage in those activities myself. even if i did, you would have no way of knowing, because we obviously don't know each other. it's pretty clear to me that you didn't really understand what i said to derek, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to strawman my argument (badly, i might add) and boil it down to two unrepresentative and wholly incorrect sentences. i don't have a vendetta, i have an agenda. like i said before, you aren't a part of this, i was talking to derek. i understand you want to protect him, but you are making yourself look very half-witted with this unrelated banter of yours. your opinion on what i write to derek is unimportant. deal with it.

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satyrcmu August 13 2006, 03:43:00 UTC
You have an agenda . . . that you carry out via LiveJournal . . . neat.

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Re: Derek satyrcmu August 12 2006, 02:04:32 UTC
normally, i would agree with you

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satyrcmu August 12 2006, 21:52:43 UTC
i would just like to point out that you called yourself a "home-wrecking whore" and a "slut." believe me, you're not as discriminatory as you think, and I say this from an on-looker’s point of view. yes, someone could think that you and the people you make out with are just dating, but in the context of dancing with some random person at the bar, the chances are very unlikely. don't delude yourself, promiscuity is a big problem in the gay community, as you've said yourself, so it's more probable that an on-looker's first impression would be that you are just as much of a rake as the rest of that all-too-quickly marginalized community.
also, it is more accurate to judge a person's volition by their actions, not by their words. after all, we often say things we don't mean. case in point, i'm sure you'll say that you didn't really mean that you were a slut when you wrote this entry. you also said that you wrote an entry in which you said that you don't typically make out with random people, and yet here is a new entry in which you detail an event where you did. once again, your actions to not bear out your proclamations or else your words are without merit.

you are right about one thing, men do like sex. not all men everywhere, all the time, but most men, most of the time. and women too. i should warn you against making hasty generalizations (of the men-like-sex variety) like you seem so prone to doing though; they are glib and ultimately, unverifiable, and it is those stereotypes that will unintentionally malign a minority in any given group. for instance, there is a horrible notion out there that most gay men are promiscuous. i agree, there is a promiscuity problem in the gay community, but there is also one in the adolescent community, and, strangely enough, in the elderly community. gay men are not morally loose, they are just portrayed that way, and i would venture to guess that you feel that way because your strongest exposure to gay men is at nightclubs where, unsurprisingly, sex is a objective. this, however, is a staple at most clubs.

by all means, retain your sexual dignity--don't be a conquest. but your ostensible and often vainglorious moral superiority belies your unwillingness to truly follow through with your beliefs. in the end, you are a conquest-- you have given in to your passions, even though you pretend you haven't just because you didn't have sex. all the while, you really are giving the gay community a bad name, because not only do you promote a dangerous stereotype, but you are also hypocritical and thoroughly without credibility about the role you play.

i am not an frequent visitor to your journal. in all honesty, and i say this knowing it will just seem catty, the way you write is irritatingly juvenile to me. but i felt compelled to comment on this specific issue, and i feel perfectly right to do so. as a member of the gay community myself, and as a member of society in general, i feel obligated to play nemesis to what i feel is the real under-belly of the gay community: the liars.

oh, and in the future, petty mud-slinging makes you look overly-defensive, like you have something to hide.
and my name is tim.

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satyrcmu August 13 2006, 03:47:56 UTC
Well, Tim, if you have such a problem with my "juvenile" writing, why do you continue to read my journal? And why have you read enough of it to be able to reference entries from so long ago? I took a look back at my entries and the one about promiscuity was written on SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH!!!! Yeah, clearly you don't read my journal a lot.

The "petty mud-slinging" was not me being overly-defensive, it was me being pissed off that some stranger was making incorrect assumptions about me and my life based solely on a few entries in an internet journal. I don't feel the need to defend myself to someone I don't know, and quite honestly don't understand your need to chastise a stranger.

One last thing . . . if this is between you and me, DO NOT insult my friends for standing up for me. I have been truly blessed with amazing people in my life and I will not stand idly by while someone harasses them.

Your opinion on what I write in my journal is unimportant. Deal with it.

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satyrcmu August 13 2006, 03:50:18 UTC
lol. whatever.
i accomplished what i set out to do.

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mutedpurple August 13 2006, 03:55:57 UTC
Hardly.

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satyrcmu August 13 2006, 03:58:03 UTC
Which was . . . to prove that you're a twat?

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