I'm very disappointed with those preview clips. I don't hate Cameron as a character, but I really thought she'd grown, and if she still is "in love" with House (infatuated is a more appropriate term for her, partially for Cuddy as well, and both of them are enamored with a version of House that is not 'House in reality'), then it proves that she hasn't grown at all. However, in one clip, House says that he was "wrong" about Cameron, and I took that to mean that he was wrong to believe she still had feelings for him. I don't think Cameron has lingering "feelings" for House; I want to believe that she really has grown, unlike Cuddy who's been taking backward steps lately. (Oh, and I can see how you'd think that "back" meant something had happened once with Houes and Cameron, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think it's more of a...that he thinks she wants him again. Not that they'd already had a sexual encounter.)
I don't believe that either woman is actually, truly in love with House. I think with Cameron, it was almost more about fulfilling her twisted needs (that need to 'fix' or 'care for the damaged') and not about love. I think Cameron was physically attracted to House, but the word "love" gets tossed around for emotions that aren't actually love. Did Cameron want to get in House's pants? Yeah, I don't doubt it. Was she in love with him? No, I don't think so. Cameron always saw what she wanted to see in House, and she was "drawn" to (and become almost "obsessed" with, as you said, which I think is accurate) qualities that would, she felt (even on a subconscious level) would fulfill her most-driving needs. I thought Cameron let those feelings go, but she may not have, which is very disappointing to me, because I really thought she grew. (Though if she hasn't gotten her needs to care for the damaged met in Chase, then on one level it makes sense that she hasn't let it go. But it's still disappointing.) I think we're seeing something similar with Cuddy (though I'm sure that House/Cuddy shippers would try to tear me to pieces if I ever made that claim to any of them). Cuddy has been going through stressful times and traumas, dealing with a lot, and looking for certain needs to be met. With her, I think she's looking for ways to ease the pain of loneliness and misery she's brought on herself by allowing her professional sphere to overshadow her personal one. And she's looking to House, which is one of the worst places for her to look (for practical as well as personal reasons; he would never meet her needs and share her desires for a more conventional partnership and family, and would cause major problems in the workplace, and I'm not sure how she doesn't get that. Who would ever take her seriously if they knew she was with House? Vogler had it right when he told her that any kind of personal relationship like that was terrible for the hospital and Cuddy needs to understand that when it applies to herself. She seems to understand when it applies to other people, but not herself).
I was actually starting to like Cameron again when she got together with Chase at the end of S3 - BUT, then she professed her love for House in "Ugly", wanted to send flowers to House’s mom on House’s behalf in “Birthmarks”, then “The Itch” came along, followed by “Big Baby”, and I find myself not liking her again - and, frankly, bored with her issue. I started doubting that Cameron had grown with “Ugly” and now it seems she, indeed, hasn’t grown. And this obsession - no, your term of “infatuation” is even more fitting - of hers is just really sad. I have posted at various places in the online fandom (but I think it was before you were a part of it) that part of my cringing at Cameron all the time is because I used to be like her - I, too, was judgmental and narcissistic; I, too, became obsessed/infatuated with guys; I, too, was astounded to learn that the objects of my affection did not return my feelings; I, too, tried to manipulate them into liking me by taking care of them when they were sick, getting friendly with their parents and friends, etc. The difference is that I was in college, between 18-22; thank goodness I grew out of that! :-)
Regarding the clip in which House tells Wilson he was wrong about Cameron, I want to believe that we’ll see - FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL, DAMN IT! - that Cameron is over House, but I sincerely doubt that will be the case. At the very least, TPTB probably want to hang onto the House/Cameron shippers and Cameron fans, even if they have to mislead them to do so. And because a House/Cameron hookup or romance would make me ill, it’s probably in the cards. ;-)
>>I’m sure we're seeing something similar with Cuddy (though I'm sure that House/Cuddy shippers would try to tear me to pieces if I ever made that claim to any of them).<<
You are always welcome to say anything you want over here - even if I disagree. :-) Sometimes, for reasons I won’t go into, I get really tired of the two popular House online forums so I’m leaning toward having more discussion on LJ.
>>Cuddy has been going through stressful times and traumas, dealing with a lot, and looking for certain needs to be met. With her, I think she's looking for ways to ease the pain of loneliness and misery she's brought on herself by allowing her professional sphere to overshadow her personal one. And she's looking to House, which is one of the worst places for her to look (for practical as well as personal reasons; he would never meet her needs and share her desires for a more conventional partnership and family, and would cause major problems in the workplace, and I'm not sure how she doesn't get that. Who would ever take her seriously if they knew she was with House?<<
I think I share some of your feelings about House/Cuddy. This season, it seems to me, has shown Cuddy wishing and hoping and praying that House would turn into who she wants him to be. As someone who has known House - in some capacity - since college, and someone who has worked with him for approx. 10 years, I would think her expectations would be more realistic. I think Cuddy admires House for many reasons, and I honestly don’t know if she is really in love with him or not. I do agree that a relationship with House isn’t in her best interest, however. And I just really find it hard to believe that after all this time, they would find themselves in love with one another. I don’t think it matters, though, that House works for Cuddy or what people would think at work, but that’s just my opinion.
I really, honestly and truly, think Stacy is the only woman with whom House could have a relationship at this point (I know you disagree, and that’s okay :-)) - because I really don’t see himself allowing him to fall that hard for anyone again, and, even if he would, I would see him falling for someone like Cate LONG before I’d ever buy him falling for Cameron or Cuddy. At least Cate seems to possess many of the characteristics House seems to appreciate in Stacy. I will never stop hoping House and Stacy get back together at the very end of the show. And I’m really not a hopeless romantic!
I don't believe that either woman is actually, truly in love with House. I think with Cameron, it was almost more about fulfilling her twisted needs (that need to 'fix' or 'care for the damaged') and not about love. I think Cameron was physically attracted to House, but the word "love" gets tossed around for emotions that aren't actually love. Did Cameron want to get in House's pants? Yeah, I don't doubt it. Was she in love with him? No, I don't think so. Cameron always saw what she wanted to see in House, and she was "drawn" to (and become almost "obsessed" with, as you said, which I think is accurate) qualities that would, she felt (even on a subconscious level) would fulfill her most-driving needs. I thought Cameron let those feelings go, but she may not have, which is very disappointing to me, because I really thought she grew. (Though if she hasn't gotten her needs to care for the damaged met in Chase, then on one level it makes sense that she hasn't let it go. But it's still disappointing.) I think we're seeing something similar with Cuddy (though I'm sure that House/Cuddy shippers would try to tear me to pieces if I ever made that claim to any of them). Cuddy has been going through stressful times and traumas, dealing with a lot, and looking for certain needs to be met. With her, I think she's looking for ways to ease the pain of loneliness and misery she's brought on herself by allowing her professional sphere to overshadow her personal one. And she's looking to House, which is one of the worst places for her to look (for practical as well as personal reasons; he would never meet her needs and share her desires for a more conventional partnership and family, and would cause major problems in the workplace, and I'm not sure how she doesn't get that. Who would ever take her seriously if they knew she was with House? Vogler had it right when he told her that any kind of personal relationship like that was terrible for the hospital and Cuddy needs to understand that when it applies to herself. She seems to understand when it applies to other people, but not herself).
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Regarding the clip in which House tells Wilson he was wrong about Cameron, I want to believe that we’ll see - FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL, DAMN IT! - that Cameron is over House, but I sincerely doubt that will be the case. At the very least, TPTB probably want to hang onto the House/Cameron shippers and Cameron fans, even if they have to mislead them to do so. And because a House/Cameron hookup or romance would make me ill, it’s probably in the cards. ;-)
>>I’m sure we're seeing something similar with Cuddy (though I'm sure that House/Cuddy shippers would try to tear me to pieces if I ever made that claim to any of them).<<
You are always welcome to say anything you want over here - even if I disagree. :-) Sometimes, for reasons I won’t go into, I get really tired of the two popular House online forums so I’m leaning toward having more discussion on LJ.
>>Cuddy has been going through stressful times and traumas, dealing with a lot, and looking for certain needs to be met. With her, I think she's looking for ways to ease the pain of loneliness and misery she's brought on herself by allowing her professional sphere to overshadow her personal one. And she's looking to House, which is one of the worst places for her to look (for practical as well as personal reasons; he would never meet her needs and share her desires for a more conventional partnership and family, and would cause major problems in the workplace, and I'm not sure how she doesn't get that. Who would ever take her seriously if they knew she was with House?<<
I think I share some of your feelings about House/Cuddy. This season, it seems to me, has shown Cuddy wishing and hoping and praying that House would turn into who she wants him to be. As someone who has known House - in some capacity - since college, and someone who has worked with him for approx. 10 years, I would think her expectations would be more realistic. I think Cuddy admires House for many reasons, and I honestly don’t know if she is really in love with him or not. I do agree that a relationship with House isn’t in her best interest, however. And I just really find it hard to believe that after all this time, they would find themselves in love with one another. I don’t think it matters, though, that House works for Cuddy or what people would think at work, but that’s just my opinion.
I really, honestly and truly, think Stacy is the only woman with whom House could have a relationship at this point (I know you disagree, and that’s okay :-)) - because I really don’t see himself allowing him to fall that hard for anyone again, and, even if he would, I would see him falling for someone like Cate LONG before I’d ever buy him falling for Cameron or Cuddy. At least Cate seems to possess many of the characteristics House seems to appreciate in Stacy. I will never stop hoping House and Stacy get back together at the very end of the show. And I’m really not a hopeless romantic!
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