Okay, I think I understand what you mean now. Reading your original post it felt like you felt Dean was treated unjustly by the writers, whereas now I think you say Sam is?! *is a bit confused*
Anyway, I can totally see your argument from the point of view of somebody who likes both boys (actors) equally. In fact, if I was a Sam-girl, I'd probably be majorly disappointed, because I think Dean is more of the emotional focus of the show, post-wall-breaking problems notwithstanding.
See, the thing is, Dean suffers when he suffers and he also suffers (badly) when Sam suffers. Whereas Sam suffers from his own problems, but for whatever reason (writers?) he doesn't seem to suffer as badly when Dean does. Sure, he worries and he isn't exactly okay with it, but he doesn't seem to be as devastated as Dean is (see Dean's alcoholism...)
Apparently Jared himself said in an interview - and, again, this is something I read in comments, so I couldn't point you to it - that Sam is focused on keeping his own sh*t together, but that Dean is focused on taking care of everyone else but himself.
So, no matter what other (sometimes rabid) Dean-girls say, I think he gets his fair share. (Even though I'm still griping about the writers' choice to send Sam to Hell as well, except longer and not just to "normal" Hell but in the cage with Lucifer, making Dean's tour seem comparatively mild.)
Well, I think Dean is shortchanged as the topic of conversation, as the main plot character. I was studying how TFW talks about each other because I had the feeling that Dean barely ever was, and I was right.
But what I mentioned in my original post was that I came to the conclusion that this meant that Dean barely had a plot, and Sam barely had a point of view. The imbalance reflects negatively on both brothers, not just Dean. I do love them both, and I want to know Sam as much as I've grown to know Dean. I guess I'm greedy! :)
I think part of us seeing Dean suffer when he suffers and when Sam suffers is that we're so burrowed down into Dean's point of view. Maybe if the point of view were balanced, we would see more of Sam suffering when Dean does. (He certainly suffered in "Mystery Spot," etc.) If the writing keeps putting his own plot as his main focus as well as the other characters' (Dean, Bobby) main focus, then that lends itself naturally to Sam worrying about Sam, and Dean/Bobby worrying about Sam. That's why I wish there were more of a balance. For one, the conversations about worrying about Sam get repetitive, and for another, we have far less of an intimate view of Sam than we do of Dean.
p.s. I hate and cannot understand the writers' decision to turn hell into a competition with that "Graceland" line and then with all of the following descriptions in S6. But that is a rant for another time.
SAM: You got to promise not to try to bring me back. DEAN: What? No, I didn't sign up for that. SAM: Dean-- DEAN: Your Hell is gonna make my tour look like Graceland. You want me just to sit by and do nothing? SAM: Once the Cage is shut, you can't go poking at it, Dean. It's too risky. DEAN: No, no, no, no, no. As if I'm just gonna let you rot in there. SAM: Yeah, you are. You don't have a choice. DEAN: You can't ask me to do this. SAM: I'm sorry, Dean. You have to. DEAN: So then what am I supposed to do? SAM: You go find Lisa. You pray to god she's dumb enough to take you in, and you -- you have barbecues and go to football games. You go live some normal, apple-pie life, Dean. Promise me.
Oh man, yes, I never actually caught that. Thanks for clarifying.
(Even reading that little scene made me go all teary-eyed there...)
And thanks for letting us exchange thoughts on our (my) favourite pastime - even if we don't agree 100 % on everything I'm still enjoying the hell out of it!
Anyway, I can totally see your argument from the point of view of somebody who likes both boys (actors) equally. In fact, if I was a Sam-girl, I'd probably be majorly disappointed, because I think Dean is more of the emotional focus of the show, post-wall-breaking problems notwithstanding.
See, the thing is, Dean suffers when he suffers and he also suffers (badly) when Sam suffers. Whereas Sam suffers from his own problems, but for whatever reason (writers?) he doesn't seem to suffer as badly when Dean does. Sure, he worries and he isn't exactly okay with it, but he doesn't seem to be as devastated as Dean is (see Dean's alcoholism...)
Apparently Jared himself said in an interview - and, again, this is something I read in comments, so I couldn't point you to it - that Sam is focused on keeping his own sh*t together, but that Dean is focused on taking care of everyone else but himself.
So, no matter what other (sometimes rabid) Dean-girls say, I think he gets his fair share. (Even though I'm still griping about the writers' choice to send Sam to Hell as well, except longer and not just to "normal" Hell but in the cage with Lucifer, making Dean's tour seem comparatively mild.)
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But what I mentioned in my original post was that I came to the conclusion that this meant that Dean barely had a plot, and Sam barely had a point of view. The imbalance reflects negatively on both brothers, not just Dean. I do love them both, and I want to know Sam as much as I've grown to know Dean. I guess I'm greedy! :)
I think part of us seeing Dean suffer when he suffers and when Sam suffers is that we're so burrowed down into Dean's point of view. Maybe if the point of view were balanced, we would see more of Sam suffering when Dean does. (He certainly suffered in "Mystery Spot," etc.) If the writing keeps putting his own plot as his main focus as well as the other characters' (Dean, Bobby) main focus, then that lends itself naturally to Sam worrying about Sam, and Dean/Bobby worrying about Sam. That's why I wish there were more of a balance. For one, the conversations about worrying about Sam get repetitive, and for another, we have far less of an intimate view of Sam than we do of Dean.
p.s. I hate and cannot understand the writers' decision to turn hell into a competition with that "Graceland" line and then with all of the following descriptions in S6. But that is a rant for another time.
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SAM: You got to promise not to try to bring me back.
DEAN: What? No, I didn't sign up for that.
SAM: Dean--
DEAN: Your Hell is gonna make my tour look like Graceland. You want me just to sit by and do nothing?
SAM: Once the Cage is shut, you can't go poking at it, Dean. It's too risky.
DEAN: No, no, no, no, no. As if I'm just gonna let you rot in there.
SAM: Yeah, you are. You don't have a choice.
DEAN: You can't ask me to do this.
SAM: I'm sorry, Dean. You have to.
DEAN: So then what am I supposed to do?
SAM: You go find Lisa. You pray to god she's dumb enough to take you in, and you -- you have barbecues and go to football games. You go live some normal, apple-pie life, Dean. Promise me.
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(Even reading that little scene made me go all teary-eyed there...)
And thanks for letting us exchange thoughts on our (my) favourite pastime - even if we don't agree 100 % on everything I'm still enjoying the hell out of it!
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